I like Ann. I just haven't figured her out. As a guy, that probably means I never will.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" > > > <lurkernomore20002000@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Oh wow. I've got to come out of lurking to tell you that you are one > > > awewsome lady, Share. You utterly defeat your detractors and they have > > > no idea that they have been defeated, or at least put in their place, as > > > they are so busy trying to demean you. > > > > > > > > Now you've done it, 7ray. Haven't you learned by now that praising the > > > DVotW (Designated Victim of the Week) is a sure-fire way to become the > > > next DVotW yourself? :-) > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Ravi, Thank you SO MUCH for FINALLY putting me at the top of the > > > list. You Robinites are always calling Barry the Number One Bad Person > > > and I'm actually FED UP with that. The guy is a cupcake compared to me! > > > A cupcake I say! FWIW, I still love you. Tee hee. > > > > > > I am with Share on this, that Barry is a cupcake. He has a rather > > > abrasive exterior but there is a non-sentimental compassion inside > > > (remember the cat he fished out of the canal - post #321899?). > > > > > > [Far Side by Gary Larson] > > > > > > [http://img2.etsystatic.com/004/0/6329570/il_fullxfull.372475046_5l8h.jp\ > > > g] > > > > > > I will not say he is without flaws. But he is far more instructive than > > > the spiritual vampires and crazies that inhabit FFL. A dear friend took > > > me to a church service the other day, and the talk was about spiritual > > > vampires. Now some might think Barry, as turquoiseb, is a spiritual > > > vampire, but this is hardly the case. He has a life, he is not walking > > > among the undead who have no life. Despite his gruffness, and oft > > > crudeness, he has a healthy degree of spiritual perception, even if it > > > is perceived, as with most of us, it is slightly bent. > > > > > > Now take Robin. He was a spiritual predator. He claims to have reformed; > > > many doubt this; if he has not succeeded, perhaps tomorrow or the next > > > day.* > > > > > > *If you reject absolutely any single > > > sensation without stopping to discriminate > > > with respect to that which awaits confirmation > > > between matter of opinion and that which > > > is already present, whether in sensation > > > or in feelings or in any immediate perception > > > of the mind, you will throw into confusion > > > even the rest of your sensations by your > > > groundless belief and so you will be > > > rejecting the standard of truth altogether. > > > If in your ideas based upon > > > opinion you hastily affirm as true all > > > that awaits confirmation as well as that > > > which does not, you will not escape error, > > > as you will be maintaining complete > > > ambiguity whenever it is a case of > > > judging between right and wrong opinion. > > > - Epicurus > > > > > > Robin also has a healthy degree of spiritual perception, but from my > > > perspective it has a twist to it, it is bent, bent in a very unusual, > > > difficult-to-define way, in a way not like anyone else here, and even in > > > his own words, incomplete. There is hope for him, at least I hope there > > > is hope. The interesting phenomenon here is what circles about his > > > diminished flame. If Robin asipires to truth, then those circling bats > > > of darkness will inhibit his recovery. This includes those who became > > > his prey and cannot forgive him, and those new groupies that find in him > > > a champion of supposed truth. Since he has not found it yet, as he said, > > > then it would seem that that championship is not on solid ground. > > > > > > As for Share, she seems a sweetie, and, like me, a generalist, not into > > > picayune argumentation for the most part. Alex wonders whyl she has > > > embedded herself in the mess here. Perhaps she is testing herself, to > > > find her weaknesses. Spiritual 'illumination' does not make one > > > automatically a genius at anything; if anything it forces you to become > > > truly curious about what is significant in one's life - insight does not > > > come by rehashing old forms, you have to try something different. > > > > > > As for Ann, she puzzles me. Seems to have a dark streak I did not > > > expect. Maybe she has had a few bad days. > > > > No Xeno, no bad days. This is me and other aspects are me as well. I have a > > truth seeker and fighter streak in me (or maybe its just cruelty but I > > don't think so) and it comes out in the face of distortion, disloyalty, > > ignorance (especially if it the result of not wanting to learn or > > understand deeper) and perversion. It takes a lot of energy to post here > > sometimes and all for what? I'm not sure yet. I am also pretty sure there > > are other aspects of me that would surprise you but I hope in a good way. > > In the meantime, don't f--- with me!!! ;-)) > > > > > Yeah, Xeno. Don't f--- with Ann. Her dark streak is pretty awesome. > > > > As for JS, the following seems more and more applicable as time goes on. > > > It is really kind of sad. Maybe this is part of being on a spiritual > > > forum, that we gradulally sink to the lowest level as we bicker back and > > > forth amongst ourselves. You have to come up for air from time to time. > > > Curtis does this by taking long breaks. Barry does it by not getting too > > > interactive, though he posts frequently. > > > SPIRITUAL VAMPIRES (from the book 'Spiritual Vampires' by Marty Raphael) > > > > > > Spiritual Parasites > > > > > > The spiritual parasites are the ones who are not conscious of their > > > vampiring. They vampire simply because it was also done to them. > > > Frequently, due to compulsive subconscious repetition, spiritual > > > parasites find themselves in careers that are natural set ups for them, > > > for example, teaching, counseling, or any other service-related > > > activity. They then vampire others in the same way vampiring was done to > > > them. The dysfunctional family is a type of spiritual parasite in that > > > each of the family members agrees to be less than whole in order to > > > participate in the family dance. > > > > > > Spiritual Predators > > > > > > Spiritual predators are spiritual workers who understand how people give > > > their power away to them. But they do nothing to prevent it because they > > > secretly enjoy the status and validation of having power over others. > > > One therapist told me outright that this goes on all the time in his > > > practice. I asked him why he allowed the unconscious abdication of power > > > to continue in his clients. He said that he saw this phenomenon as a > > > psychic food chain. The people on the lower levels of the psychic food > > > chain automatically give the more highly evolved beings their power. He > > > said, "They don't consciously do it, but they don't mind either because > > > that's the way it's always been." What happened to the idea that > > > therapists are trained and dedicated to support people's empowerment? > > > > > > Spiritual Perpetrators > > > > > > The third type of spiritual vampire is the perpetrator. Spiritual > > > perpetrators internal lives are such moral wastelands that, in order to > > > maintain spiritual lives at all, they actively seek out victims for > > > spiritual blood. They have no concern about the effect this has on their > > > victims' souls. They are usually charming, charismatic, and cunning. > > > They are soul murderers. > > > While I have brought up the subject of spiritual vampires, Barry brought > > > up NPD in reference to RWC. I am not qualified to diagnose this; for > > > anyone interested, here are a list of symptoms: > > > NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER > > > > > > Symptoms > > > By Mayo Clinic staff > > > > > > Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, > > > emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and > > > borderline personality disorders. > > > > > > Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include: > > > Believing that you're better than others > > > Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness > > > Exaggerating your achievements or talents > > > Expecting constant praise and admiration > > > Believing that you're special and acting accordingly > > > Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings > > > Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans > > > Taking advantage of others > > > Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior > > > Being jealous of others > > > Believing that others are jealous of you > > > Trouble keeping healthy relationships > > > Setting unrealistic goals > > > Being easily hurt and rejected > > > Having a fragile self-esteem > > > Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional > > > > > > Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem > > > like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. > > > Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy > > > confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you > > > put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy > > > confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value > > > others. > > > > > > When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as > > > conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. > > > You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You > > > may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special > > > treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or > > > angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything �" the > > > best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance. > > > > > > But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You > > > have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You > > > may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make > > > yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to > > > belittle the other person to make yourself appear better. > > > > > > When to see a doctor > > > When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to > > > think that anything could be wrong �" doing so wouldn't fit with > > > your self-image of power and perfection. But by definition, a > > > narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of your > > > life, such as relationships, work, school or your financial affairs. You > > > may be generally unhappy and confused by a mix of seemingly > > > contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you > > > may find your relationships unfulfilling. > > > > > > If you notice any of these problems in your life, consider reaching out > > > to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right > > > treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable. > > > I have been just throwing a few ideas out here, I have mostly not wanted > > > to get into the current discussions, but as the current ongoings have > > > been so weird, I thought I would throw something into the ring. > > > > > >
