--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" > > <lurkernomore20002000@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Oh wow. I've got to come out of lurking to tell you that you are one > > awewsome lady, Share. You utterly defeat your detractors and they have > > no idea that they have been defeated, or at least put in their place, as > > they are so busy trying to demean you. > > > > > > Now you've done it, 7ray. Haven't you learned by now that praising the > > DVotW (Designated Victim of the Week) is a sure-fire way to become the > > next DVotW yourself? :-) > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> > > wrote: > > > > > > dear Ravi, Thank you SO MUCH for FINALLY putting me at the top of the > > list. You Robinites are always calling Barry the Number One Bad Person > > and I'm actually FED UP with that. The guy is a cupcake compared to me! > > A cupcake I say! FWIW, I still love you. Tee hee. > > > > I am with Share on this, that Barry is a cupcake. He has a rather > > abrasive exterior but there is a non-sentimental compassion inside > > (remember the cat he fished out of the canal - post #321899?). > > > > [Far Side by Gary Larson] > > > > [http://img2.etsystatic.com/004/0/6329570/il_fullxfull.372475046_5l8h.jp\ > > g] > > > > I will not say he is without flaws. But he is far more instructive than > > the spiritual vampires and crazies that inhabit FFL. A dear friend took > > me to a church service the other day, and the talk was about spiritual > > vampires. Now some might think Barry, as turquoiseb, is a spiritual > > vampire, but this is hardly the case. He has a life, he is not walking > > among the undead who have no life. Despite his gruffness, and oft > > crudeness, he has a healthy degree of spiritual perception, even if it > > is perceived, as with most of us, it is slightly bent. > > > > Now take Robin. He was a spiritual predator. He claims to have reformed; > > many doubt this; if he has not succeeded, perhaps tomorrow or the next > > day.* > > > > *If you reject absolutely any single > > sensation without stopping to discriminate > > with respect to that which awaits confirmation > > between matter of opinion and that which > > is already present, whether in sensation > > or in feelings or in any immediate perception > > of the mind, you will throw into confusion > > even the rest of your sensations by your > > groundless belief and so you will be > > rejecting the standard of truth altogether. > > If in your ideas based upon > > opinion you hastily affirm as true all > > that awaits confirmation as well as that > > which does not, you will not escape error, > > as you will be maintaining complete > > ambiguity whenever it is a case of > > judging between right and wrong opinion. > > - Epicurus > > > > Robin also has a healthy degree of spiritual perception, but from my > > perspective it has a twist to it, it is bent, bent in a very unusual, > > difficult-to-define way, in a way not like anyone else here, and even in > > his own words, incomplete. There is hope for him, at least I hope there > > is hope. The interesting phenomenon here is what circles about his > > diminished flame. If Robin asipires to truth, then those circling bats > > of darkness will inhibit his recovery. This includes those who became > > his prey and cannot forgive him, and those new groupies that find in him > > a champion of supposed truth. Since he has not found it yet, as he said, > > then it would seem that that championship is not on solid ground. > > > > As for Share, she seems a sweetie, and, like me, a generalist, not into > > picayune argumentation for the most part. Alex wonders whyl she has > > embedded herself in the mess here. Perhaps she is testing herself, to > > find her weaknesses. Spiritual 'illumination' does not make one > > automatically a genius at anything; if anything it forces you to become > > truly curious about what is significant in one's life - insight does not > > come by rehashing old forms, you have to try something different. > > > > As for Ann, she puzzles me. Seems to have a dark streak I did not > > expect. Maybe she has had a few bad days. > > No Xeno, no bad days. This is me and other aspects are me as well. I have a > truth seeker and fighter streak in me (or maybe its just cruelty but I don't > think so) and it comes out in the face of distortion, disloyalty, ignorance > (especially if it the result of not wanting to learn or understand deeper) > and perversion. It takes a lot of energy to post here sometimes and all for > what? I'm not sure yet. I am also pretty sure there are other aspects of me > that would surprise you but I hope in a good way. In the meantime, don't f--- > with me!!! ;-)) > >
Yeah, Xeno. Don't f--- with Ann. Her dark streak is pretty awesome. > > As for JS, the following seems more and more applicable as time goes on. > > It is really kind of sad. Maybe this is part of being on a spiritual > > forum, that we gradulally sink to the lowest level as we bicker back and > > forth amongst ourselves. You have to come up for air from time to time. > > Curtis does this by taking long breaks. Barry does it by not getting too > > interactive, though he posts frequently. > > SPIRITUAL VAMPIRES (from the book 'Spiritual Vampires' by Marty Raphael) > > > > Spiritual Parasites > > > > The spiritual parasites are the ones who are not conscious of their > > vampiring. They vampire simply because it was also done to them. > > Frequently, due to compulsive subconscious repetition, spiritual > > parasites find themselves in careers that are natural set ups for them, > > for example, teaching, counseling, or any other service-related > > activity. They then vampire others in the same way vampiring was done to > > them. The dysfunctional family is a type of spiritual parasite in that > > each of the family members agrees to be less than whole in order to > > participate in the family dance. > > > > Spiritual Predators > > > > Spiritual predators are spiritual workers who understand how people give > > their power away to them. But they do nothing to prevent it because they > > secretly enjoy the status and validation of having power over others. > > One therapist told me outright that this goes on all the time in his > > practice. I asked him why he allowed the unconscious abdication of power > > to continue in his clients. He said that he saw this phenomenon as a > > psychic food chain. The people on the lower levels of the psychic food > > chain automatically give the more highly evolved beings their power. He > > said, "They don't consciously do it, but they don't mind either because > > that's the way it's always been." What happened to the idea that > > therapists are trained and dedicated to support people's empowerment? > > > > Spiritual Perpetrators > > > > The third type of spiritual vampire is the perpetrator. Spiritual > > perpetrators internal lives are such moral wastelands that, in order to > > maintain spiritual lives at all, they actively seek out victims for > > spiritual blood. They have no concern about the effect this has on their > > victims' souls. They are usually charming, charismatic, and cunning. > > They are soul murderers. > > While I have brought up the subject of spiritual vampires, Barry brought > > up NPD in reference to RWC. I am not qualified to diagnose this; for > > anyone interested, here are a list of symptoms: > > NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER > > > > Symptoms > > By Mayo Clinic staff > > > > Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, > > emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and > > borderline personality disorders. > > > > Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include: > > Believing that you're better than others > > Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness > > Exaggerating your achievements or talents > > Expecting constant praise and admiration > > Believing that you're special and acting accordingly > > Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings > > Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans > > Taking advantage of others > > Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior > > Being jealous of others > > Believing that others are jealous of you > > Trouble keeping healthy relationships > > Setting unrealistic goals > > Being easily hurt and rejected > > Having a fragile self-esteem > > Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional > > > > Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem > > like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. > > Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy > > confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you > > put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy > > confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value > > others. > > > > When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as > > conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. > > You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You > > may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special > > treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or > > angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything â" the > > best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance. > > > > But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You > > have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You > > may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make > > yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to > > belittle the other person to make yourself appear better. > > > > When to see a doctor > > When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to > > think that anything could be wrong â" doing so wouldn't fit with > > your self-image of power and perfection. But by definition, a > > narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of your > > life, such as relationships, work, school or your financial affairs. You > > may be generally unhappy and confused by a mix of seemingly > > contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you > > may find your relationships unfulfilling. > > > > If you notice any of these problems in your life, consider reaching out > > to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right > > treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable. > > I have been just throwing a few ideas out here, I have mostly not wanted > > to get into the current discussions, but as the current ongoings have > > been so weird, I thought I would throw something into the ring. > > >
