Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - if the TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly and honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say.
________________________________ From: awoelflebater <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments. Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually all of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your experiences with utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you are and where you're coming from to the extent that I can without really knowing you. Carry on, you are simply speaking of your perceptions and conclusions and experiences in a way which I find intelligent and worth considering. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Whether you and other TM apologists like it or not, if you want the general > public to dote on TM like you do, you are going to have to deal with the > baggage the Movement has generated for nearly 60 years - you can't expect > this info to be taken in a vacuum - as in pay attention to what we tell you > to pay attention to, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. > > I don't rant - I want people to have the full picture, not the limited > information the TM Movement puts out - then people can make their own > decision - but people are entitled to full disclosure, full information and > you know damn good and well full disclosure is one thing the TM folks are not > willing to give most of the time. > > When you deal with esoteric notions there is the notion of karma or > unresolved energy that people create individually and collectively - if you > want more people to do TM you are going to have to deal openly and > forthrightly with the energy of unpleasant and unconscionable behavior the TM > Movement has created and perpetuated. Even those who are still TM boosters > have story after story of TM abuse. > > I spoke last night to an old friend who was on one of the early Governor > training courses and who was on one of the teams of Governors who taught the > TM Sidhi Prep courses around 1977 or 1978 - she nearly adores what she > received from Maharishi, yet said her time on the Sidhi Prep teams was one of > the worst of her life due to the way the Council in New York who was in > charge of the teams treated her and the other ladies on her team, and other > teams she knew of. > > Karma is karma but you seem to think if its created in the service of > Maharishi it don't stick to you. > > What does that have to do with scientific research? The credibility of the > organization that does this research has been impaired due to its behavior, > not to mention the fact that to have most of the TM research done by TM'ers > always with positive results is like having Merck doing all its own research > on its own drugs, or as we say here in the South, its like having the coyotes > guarding the hen house. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: feste37 <feste37@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:33 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments. > > > Â > Your comments are worthless because they are not about the subject of the > article. You just wanted to go on an anti-TM rant, throwing in everything you > could think of. The other posters dealt with you quite kindly, which is more > than you deserved. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > Dunno if any of you are interested but when I saw this blog on a TM study > > and saw one of the comments on it, I decided to post a reply - this brought > > forth a heated response from someone that I suspect works for the TM folks > > - so check it out if you want some fun. > > > > http://cardiobrief.org/2012/11/13/mysterious-disappearing-paper-finally-reappears-in-another-journal/ > > >