--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > Placebo? No son, this kind of spirituality ain't no placebo. It is for > > real and it is reality. You're living in the Maya-n age. Maharishi did'nt > > need to make no excuses for he came up with help time and again for your > > sorry ass. Make excuses? Look at the illumined on BATGAP.COM, they are > > mostly a bunch of illumined veteran TM'ers . There's a town full of > > illumined here on earth right here too, Fairfield present-tense. Someone > > seems to have missed the bus. Stop your whining and come back to > > meditation. Be on time. Time is short on earth, make use of it while you > > got it. Be on time this time. Repent and come back before it is too late, > > -Buck in the Dome > > > What you are saying inspires the same anxiety that made me leave the TMO in > the first place. You're saying 'time is short' and 'come back before it's > too late'. According to vedic teachings, we are in a cycle of birth and > death. We continue to be born and die over and over until we reach a state > where our concsiousness is fully developed. Therefore, we shouldn't be in a > state of anxiety in terms of this lifetime. I remember when I was at MIU/MUM > (I was there when the name changed), some teachers would try to warn us not > to fall off the path, and to achieve enlightenment in this lifetime. What > i'm wondering is whether or not they really believe that we're in a cycle of > birth and death then? Do they really believe this is our only chance? Is > MMY's teachings the only teachings in the history of the world that can lead > us to enlightenment, and he's the last teacher of this kind for the rest of > eternity? > > Enlightenment is inevitable for all souls, not just those of us who learned > TM in this life. Warning people to take advantage of this here and now as if > it's their last chance is simply putting them in a state of anxiety....the > exact opposite of enlightenment. As for me, i'll stay on the program, but > refuse to live in fear of not getting as much out of a lifetime as I can. My > perception of worrying about getting enlightened in this lifetime is like a > soldier who is afraid of dying in combat. You're missing the key element > that is supposed to be intrinsic to the path you chose. It's a sign that a > person doesn't really have faith in cosmic intelligence. I remember a > recording of Alan Watts that accused modern new-age teachings of > enlightenment to be nothing more than people trying to get 'one-up on the > universe'. Not that there's anything wrong with spirituality or aspirations > for enlightenment, but the anxiety of not achieving it implies that we don't > really have faith in divinity in the first place. We don't really have faith > that nature will take care of our soul in the long run, and we seem to think > that enlightened teachings are somehow going to disappear all of a sudden. > > Regarding Sthapatya Veda, did Buddha live in a Sthapatya Veda home? What > about MMY, Guru Dev, Alan Watts, Eckardt Tolle? Or really....anyone who we > consider highly evolved or enlightened? I don't believe any of them did live > in those types of homes. > > I'm not saying I think Sthapatya Veda is completely bogus. It's just like > training in martial arts. If you're a top contender for a world title, then > yes...a very carefully planned diet could make a difference between winning > and losing. But your diet is really only a small percentage of what it takes > to win. The first 99% is years of blood, sweat, tears, wins and losses, > etc... It's not really until you get to a very high competitive level that > something as minor as diet is going to start becoming important. I think > it's the same way with enlightenment. If you're a really young soul, whether > or not you live in a Sthapatya Ved home is not going to make you or break you > in terms of spiritual growth (IMO). You've still got the first 99% to > complete. > > seekliberation >
Buck didn't say that this is your last chance for enlightenment ever. But when you drop the body, how long will you be without a nervous-system and gravity, 10 years, 50 years, 300 years, 500 years ? It depends on the circumstances and individual karma. In any case you'll be out of circulation for a long time without the ability to meditate. Therefore Buck is right, there is no time to waste. This is a fact. Which shouldn't produce any fear whatsoever, but urgency is certainly appropiate. Diet/Ayurveda, Vastu, Jyotish is becoming stronger founded in the population every year. Maharishi planned for 10,000 years, not just for one short lifetime. The Saints didn't live in Vastu dwellings, but they will have the opportunity, thanks to the tireless effort by Maharshi next time they come.
