>
> Nablusoss writes:
>  A philosophy, spiritual path or Guru that doesn't put value on the short 
> time we have in each life to evolve and thus stress a certain amount of 
> urgency, is a no-good waste of time. If you need someone to rub your back or 
> tell you what you like to hear then have a Thai-massage.<>
>

Death, like an overflowing stream,
Sweeps us away; our life's a dream,
An empty tale, a morning flow'r,
Cut down and wither'd in an hour.

 
> Absolutely Nablusoss, 
> 
> This was said before but the urgency of it deserves to be brought up again:
> 
> "Well understand, actually most of the research thus far on the Meissner 
> Effect
> (ME) was on 'meditators' in a population. The "yogic flying" studies came 
> along later and evidently are only pilot at best. By comparison with the 
> meditation population studies the "yogic flying" studies are infant. This is 
> a lot of the
> urgency now to get 2000 sidhas or "yogic flyers" together to research 
> long-term.
> By hook or crook. By Western meditators or hired in pundit boys from India if 
> the experienced westerners of the old TM-movement will not show up. This is
> incredibly high-minded stuff.
> 
> Even a small fraction of individuals in the population engaging in meditation
> practice has been found to reduce stress in cities, states, nations, and the
> world, as seen by reduced war deaths, terrorism, and crime and increased
> cooperation, cultural exchanges, and creativity."
> 
> -Buck
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Buck didn't say that this is your last chance for enlightenment ever. 
> > > > But when you drop the body, how long will you be without a 
> > > > nervous-system and gravity, 10 years, 50 years, 300 years, 500 years ? 
> > > > It depends on the circumstances and individual karma. In any case 
> > > > you'll be out of circulation for a long time without the ability to 
> > > > meditate. Therefore Buck is right, there is no time to waste. This is a 
> > > > fact. Which shouldn't produce any fear whatsoever, but urgency is 
> > > > certainly appropiate. 
> > > 
> > > first off...you're right, we don't really know how long we'll be out of 
> > > circulation, but my main point is that even if it takes us another 500 
> > > years of being in this cycle of birth and death....so what?  What is the 
> > > concern?  
> > 
> > 
> > Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written 
> > properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you could 
> > linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the possebility to 
> > think your mantra. That's quite a long time though probably above average. 
> > And that's why there should be a certain ugency in this matter since noone 
> > really knows for sure how long it will take to be back in a body and be 
> > able to resume Sadhana.
> > 
> > 
> > It's like we don't trust divinity to carry out its plan.  The sense of 
> > urgency you're talking about....I'm not saying to not be spiritual, or 
> > ignore enlightenment, but introducing a sense of urgency is very 
> > contradictory to the state of consciousness we're aspiring to.  Second...my 
> > general view is that I never trust or have any faith in any teaching or 
> > philosophy that introduces a sense of urgency towards anything.  
> > 
> > 
> > A philosophy, spiritual path or Guru that doesn't put value on the short 
> > time we have in each life to evolve and thus stress a certain amount of 
> > urgency, is a no-good vaste of time. If you need someone to rub your back 
> > or tell you what you like to hear then have a Thai-massage.
> >
>

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