Nablusoss writes:
 A philosophy, spiritual path or Guru that doesn't put value on the short time 
we have in each life to evolve and thus stress a certain amount of urgency, is 
a no-good waste of time. If you need someone to rub your back or tell you what 
you like to hear then have a Thai-massage.<>

Absolutely Nablusoss, 

This was said before but the urgency of it deserves to be brought up again:

"Well understand, actually most of the research thus far on the Meissner Effect
(ME) was on 'meditators' in a population. The "yogic flying" studies came along 
later and evidently are only pilot at best. By comparison with the meditation 
population studies the "yogic flying" studies are infant. This is a lot of the
urgency now to get 2000 sidhas or "yogic flyers" together to research long-term.
By hook or crook. By Western meditators or hired in pundit boys from India if 
the experienced westerners of the old TM-movement will not show up. This is
incredibly high-minded stuff.

Even a small fraction of individuals in the population engaging in meditation
practice has been found to reduce stress in cities, states, nations, and the
world, as seen by reduced war deaths, terrorism, and crime and increased
cooperation, cultural exchanges, and creativity."

-Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> 
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
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> > > Buck didn't say that this is your last chance for enlightenment ever. But 
> > > when you drop the body, how long will you be without a nervous-system and 
> > > gravity, 10 years, 50 years, 300 years, 500 years ? It depends on the 
> > > circumstances and individual karma. In any case you'll be out of 
> > > circulation for a long time without the ability to meditate. Therefore 
> > > Buck is right, there is no time to waste. This is a fact. Which shouldn't 
> > > produce any fear whatsoever, but urgency is certainly appropiate. 
> > 
> > first off...you're right, we don't really know how long we'll be out of 
> > circulation, but my main point is that even if it takes us another 500 
> > years of being in this cycle of birth and death....so what?  What is the 
> > concern?  
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> 
> Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written 
> properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you could 
> linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the possebility to 
> think your mantra. That's quite a long time though probably above average. 
> And that's why there should be a certain ugency in this matter since noone 
> really knows for sure how long it will take to be back in a body and be able 
> to resume Sadhana.
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> It's like we don't trust divinity to carry out its plan.  The sense of 
> urgency you're talking about....I'm not saying to not be spiritual, or ignore 
> enlightenment, but introducing a sense of urgency is very contradictory to 
> the state of consciousness we're aspiring to.  Second...my general view is 
> that I never trust or have any faith in any teaching or philosophy that 
> introduces a sense of urgency towards anything.  
> 
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> A philosophy, spiritual path or Guru that doesn't put value on the short time 
> we have in each life to evolve and thus stress a certain amount of urgency, 
> is a no-good vaste of time. If you need someone to rub your back or tell you 
> what you like to hear then have a Thai-massage.
>

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