--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > me too, seekliberation, 3 planets in the 9th, Sun, Merc, Venus with Merc and > Venus being exactly conjunct. Merc is ruler of 9th and 12th and Venus is > ruler of 8th and 1st. Ketu is in the first.
You have ketu in the first, and 3 planets in the 9th? We're nearly identical. I have Ketu in the 1st, with Saturn, and Sun/Me/Jup in the 9th. Ketu in the first is kind of difficult (in a material sense) but great for spirituality. > One thing I've heard about all this is that people with a strong Sun and or > strong 9th house tend to be their own guru. I think this is true. > Another thing I've heard is that actually the soul as if chooses the birth > chart etc for maximum evolution. This also resonates as true to me.  > > Some Latter Day Saints once came knocking at the front door. I warned them > about my being a TMer. They glanced at each other nervously and asked if I > knew that the Bible says that TM is the work of the devil. Eventually I had > to explain to them that though I didn't know for sure, what I had experienced > was enough for me to take a chance that I was on the right track for me. > They said goodbye (-: You know, I get irritated at some of the recent attacks on Christmas and what appears to be a movement in America to remove any trace of Christianity from our lives. But when I hear stories like this....I lose sympathy for Christians. The simple-mindedness of Christianity, IMO, has been very detrimental to spirituality for the past few centuries. Islam, IMO takes the gold medal though. seekliberation > > ________________________________ > From: seekliberation <seekliberation@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:24 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect > > >  > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written > > properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you could > > linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the possebility to > > think your mantra. That's quite a long time though probably above average. > > And that's why there should be a certain ugency in this matter since noone > > really knows for sure how long it will take to be back in a body and be > > able to resume Sadhana. > > I had a longer reply written, then erased it all....it's futile. You're > convinced you're in direct control of your spirituality, while I think that > divinity has a plan for us all in the midst of our individual efforts. When > I studied astrology, this is explained in terms of the difference between the > 8th and 9th house. They both result in people being spiritual, but the 8th > house leans more towards spirituality, while 9th house leans more towards > religion. The 8th house indicates spiritual development through one's own > initiative, while the 9th house more so through revelation. An example of an > 8th house type of person would be Sanjaya in the Bhagavad Gita, someone who > is psychic and achieves spiritual realizations through his own efforts. Then > you have Arjuna, who has no significant or indicated spiritual practice, but > has reality revealed directly to him directly by God. In other words, > individual effort vs revelation. > > However, i've heard that the 12th house is the only one that really gets us > out of this cycle of birth and death, and it also has a slightly different > approach to the subject of spirituality. Ketu, is also imperative in terms > of its placement in the chart for enlightenment. Given the fact that we > don't have absolute control over the position of the planets at the time of > birth, that's enough for me to look at meditation and spirituality as > something I do because its my nature, not because I think i'm going to save > the world or my own sould if I just 'hurry up' or 'try harder'. But then > again, I have 3 planets in the 9th house, and only 1 in the 8th, so that's > probably why I lean that way, not because it's the absolute truth...which I > also can't say I really know. > > seekliberation >
