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> >
> > >
> > > Nablusoss writes:
> > > A philosophy, spiritual path or Guru that doesn't put value on the short
> > > time we have in each life to evolve and thus stress a certain amount of
> > > urgency, is a no-good waste of time. If you need someone to rub your back
> > > or tell you what you like to hear then have a Thai-massage.<>
> > >
> >
> > Death, like an overflowing stream,
> > Sweeps us away; our life's a dream,
> > An empty tale, a morning flow'r,
> > Cut down and wither'd in an hour.
> >
> Our age to sev'nty years is set;
> How short the time! How frail the state!
> And if to eighty we arrive,
> We'd rather sigh and groan than live.
>
Teach us, Om Unified Field, how frail is life;
And kindly lengthen out the span,
Till a wise care of piety
Fit us to die and dwell with Thee.
> >
> > > Absolutely Nablusoss,
> > >
> > > This was said before but the urgency of it deserves to be brought up
> > > again:
> > >
> > > "Well understand, actually most of the research thus far on the Meissner
> > > Effect
> > > (ME) was on 'meditators' in a population. The "yogic flying" studies came
> > > along later and evidently are only pilot at best. By comparison with the
> > > meditation population studies the "yogic flying" studies are infant. This
> > > is a lot of the
> > > urgency now to get 2000 sidhas or "yogic flyers" together to research
> > > long-term.
> > > By hook or crook. By Western meditators or hired in pundit boys from
> > > India if the experienced westerners of the old TM-movement will not show
> > > up. This is
> > > incredibly high-minded stuff.
> > >
> > > Even a small fraction of individuals in the population engaging in
> > > meditation
> > > practice has been found to reduce stress in cities, states, nations, and
> > > the
> > > world, as seen by reduced war deaths, terrorism, and crime and increased
> > > cooperation, cultural exchanges, and creativity."
> > >
> > > -Buck
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"
> > > > <seekliberation@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Buck didn't say that this is your last chance for enlightenment
> > > > > > ever. But when you drop the body, how long will you be without a
> > > > > > nervous-system and gravity, 10 years, 50 years, 300 years, 500
> > > > > > years ? It depends on the circumstances and individual karma. In
> > > > > > any case you'll be out of circulation for a long time without the
> > > > > > ability to meditate. Therefore Buck is right, there is no time to
> > > > > > waste. This is a fact. Which shouldn't produce any fear whatsoever,
> > > > > > but urgency is certainly appropiate.
> > > > >
> > > > > first off...you're right, we don't really know how long we'll be out
> > > > > of circulation, but my main point is that even if it takes us another
> > > > > 500 years of being in this cycle of birth and death....so what? What
> > > > > is the concern?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written
> > > > properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you
> > > > could linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the
> > > > possebility to think your mantra. That's quite a long time though
> > > > probably above average. And that's why there should be a certain ugency
> > > > in this matter since noone really knows for sure how long it will take
> > > > to be back in a body and be able to resume Sadhana.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's like we don't trust divinity to carry out its plan. The sense of
> > > > urgency you're talking about....I'm not saying to not be spiritual, or
> > > > ignore enlightenment, but introducing a sense of urgency is very
> > > > contradictory to the state of consciousness we're aspiring to.
> > > > Second...my general view is that I never trust or have any faith in any
> > > > teaching or philosophy that introduces a sense of urgency towards
> > > > anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A philosophy, spiritual path or Guru that doesn't put value on the
> > > > short time we have in each life to evolve and thus stress a certain
> > > > amount of urgency, is a no-good vaste of time. If you need someone to
> > > > rub your back or tell you what you like to hear then have a
> > > > Thai-massage.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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