--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
>
> Right. Like you're so objective. But what is very funny is
> your accusing me of not having the most active sense of
> humour. One, because I do and I express it often here. And
> two, because you don't. IMO.

Let's just say there is no consensus here on either count.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Ann <awoelflebater@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, 
> Pros and Cons]
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?  Right.  
> > I thought not.  Even though it was obviously way over the top.  And 
> > it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.  But right, focus 
> > on Steve and me and our alleged wrong doings.  Dredge up the past if 
> > need be.  But definitely ignore Ravi's extreme over reaction.  So 
> > much for friend's being able to speak frankly with each other.  
> 
> Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous because it 
> was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less than 'over the 
> top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most active sense of 
> humour, especially when something is directed at you. You like to 'play' but 
> only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt around things. Still, you 
> do have your supporter in Steve so that is nice for you. He is very staunch.
> > 
> > 
> > Judy to Ravi in Mission
> >  Accomplished thread:
> > 
> > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to
> > speak frankly to those we care about.
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> > Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door
> > 
> > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep
> > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep
> > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep
> > 
> > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share?
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >  
> > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley 
> > >smile (-:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> > >Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them."
> > >
> > >
> > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector 
> > >of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are 
> > >hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need 
> > >to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been 
> > >reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no 
> > >longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth 
> > >and start your own cult O' Wise lady.
> > >
> > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >>  
> > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of 
> > >>consciousness.  Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot 
> > >>say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral 
> > >>realms.  The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>________________________________
> > >> From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM
> > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> > >>Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > >> 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our 
> > >>consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same 
> > >>thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets 
> > >>from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote 
> > >>(ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, 
> > >>according to your level of consciousness at the time. 
> > >>
> > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral 
> > >>manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of 
> > >>subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of 
> > >>Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda 
> > >>like in "real" life.
> > >>
> > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, 
> > >>most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the 
> > >>consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial 
> > >>world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like 
> > >>anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and 
> > >>freedom of motion.
> > >>
> > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended 
> > >>solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will 
> > >>probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and 
> > >>criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly 
> > >>called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, 
> > >>based on limited access.
> > >>
> > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Freebie from Doc:
> > >>> 
> > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - 
> > >>> lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have 
> > >>> a low consciousness. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided 
> > >>> for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, 
> > >>> but that's about it.
> > >>> 
> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric 
> > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it 
> > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? 
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did 
> > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral 
> > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking 
> > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. 
> > >>> (schnipp)
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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