--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Right. Like you're so objective. But what is very funny is > your accusing me of not having the most active sense of > humour. One, because I do and I express it often here. And > two, because you don't. IMO.
Let's just say there is no consensus here on either count. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ann <awoelflebater@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, > Pros and Cons] > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?ÃÂ Right.ÃÂ > > I thought not.ÃÂ Even though it was obviously way over the top.ÃÂ And > > it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.ÃÂ But right, focus > > on Steve and me and our alleged wrong doings.ÃÂ Dredge up the past if > > need be.ÃÂ But definitely ignore Ravi's extreme over reaction.ÃÂ So > > much for friend's being able to speak frankly with each other.ÃÂ > > Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous because it > was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less than 'over the > top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most active sense of > humour, especially when something is directed at you. You like to 'play' but > only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt around things. Still, you > do have your supporter in Steve so that is nice for you. He is very staunch. > > > > > > Judy to Ravi in Mission > > Accomplished thread: > > > > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to > > speak frankly to those we care about. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > ÃÂ > > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door > > > > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep > > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep > > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep > > > > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share? > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > >ÃÂ > > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley > > >smile (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM > > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > >Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÂ > > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them." > > > > > > > > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector > > >of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are > > >hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need > > >to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been > > >reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no > > >longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth > > >and start your own cult O' Wise lady. > > > > > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > >>ÃÂ > > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of > > >>consciousness.ÃÂ Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot > > >>say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral > > >>realms.ÃÂ The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>________________________________ > > >> From: "doctordumbass@" > > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM > > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > >>Attention, Pros and Cons] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>ÃÂ > > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our > > >>consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same > > >>thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets > > >>from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote > > >>(ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, > > >>according to your level of consciousness at the time. > > >> > > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral > > >>manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of > > >>subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of > > >>Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda > > >>like in "real" life. > > >> > > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, > > >>most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the > > >>consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial > > >>world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like > > >>anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and > > >>freedom of motion. > > >> > > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended > > >>solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will > > >>probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and > > >>criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly > > >>called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, > > >>based on limited access. > > >> > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Freebie from Doc: > > >>> > > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - > > >>> lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have > > >>> a low consciousness. > > >>> > > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided > > >>> for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, > > >>> but that's about it. > > >>> > > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric > > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it > > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? > > >>> > > > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did > > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral > > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking > > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. > > >>> (schnipp) > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >