On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:42 PM, authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:38 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > Wow, tat's a lot of words! > > > > > > Which you obviously don't want to deal with. Especially > > > your oh-so-convenient forgettery with regard to your post > > > on the checking procedure. > > > > > > > The simple answer is this: > > > > > > > > Checking shows how the mechanics of effort are used. > > > > > > In fact, the "simple answer" is that checking shows how > > > the mechanics of effort are *not* used. > > > > > > Again: If you didn't get this, you never got what TM is. > > > > The bottom line in this case is simple: > > > > if it uses "patched placement", that is if it uses some method > > where the mind has to be brought back to *something* (in this case > > the mantra) in order to work, > > Right. Not the case with TM except in the early stages > of practice. > > Think: What is the mind "brought back" *from* in TM?
Exactly--that which needed "patched". If it didn't need "patched" (if you didn't "need" to meditate), you'd experience the transcendent through all states! But if it is being brought back from the transcendent, it *is* being patched. Oh well, subtle effort. So much talk. > > (Vaj won't respond to this, just as Barry didn't > respond to a similar question from Lawson.) > > > it requires some effort. This is not > > a big deal, it just the mechanics involved. Don't worry so much. > > > > Rick has also shared some wise pointers on increasing mindfulness > > that M. suggested to prevent laxity--that too was an old post you > > probably missed. Very wise sharing on that by Rick (I also received > > a number of posts off list on that one where numerous people > > shared similar experiences). > > Oh, yes, we know, Vaj, you remind us often about how > you have access to all *kinds* of privileged data. Well you heard the same thing if you were *listening*. He posted it here. > > Some of us aren't impressed. Well it's a two way street ya know. > > > Really if you have questions > > You seem to be imagining things. I didn't ask a > question. Actually you asked what Mahesh said specifically at Estes Park several times--so did your side kick. If you wanted specifics you should ask Rick or some one who was there (if you didn't get it on your own!). > you should be asking Rick--an extremely > > experienced TM teacher and close friend of M.--what he said, how > he > > said it, what his intent was on this. And then hopefully you can > > relax my dear. > > > > I really have nothing else to say--it's all been said. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
