--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 8/21/06 4:08 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for your reply. A quick response -- more on other points later.  
> > 
> >> >And MMY
> >> > has called for experiences -- of sidhis and statilized states. And
> >> > many of the "normal folk" are responding with great experiences of
> >> > both, apparently, with great adoring feedback from MMY. Why would
> >> > these special silent ones feel shy about stepping up to the mic and
> >> > discussing their experiences?


 
> There is definitely a major
> faction in this community who conceive of enlightenment as being
something
> so extraordinary that they accuse anyone proclaiming it of egomania,
as you
> appear to be doing in the following paragraph.

No, that is not my point at all. Perhaps my wording is way off. Let me
try again. 

I was responding to the point made in earlier posts that the FF BCers
are reluctant to go to the mic in the Dome because if they talked
about their BC and sidhi experiences on the mic to MMY, they would be
kicked out of the domes. My whole point below from prior post is that
the above assertion seems ridiculous. Others are talking to MMY about
sidhi and apparently higher state experiences. They are not being
kicked out. Why would the FF SSers be kicked out? 

> >> > 
> >> > Perhaps their experiences are so much more Brahamanic and the
sidhis
> >> > are SO much beyond the "normal-folks" experiences, 
\

My language was perhaps flamboyant to make a point. The point above.
Perhaps the laguage was excessive, if so sorry. However, my point has
nothing to do with them being egosistic if they talk about their
experiences. 

that MMY will say
> >> > -- "no, THAT Brahman is TOO GRAND -- Out with you out of DOMES
NOW!.
> >> > Now lets get back to hear of "normal Brahamn".
> >> > 
> >> > Should tha unlikely scenario occur: MMY is mad that people are
having
> >> > good experiences (what a bizzare premise) and these special walking
> >> > buddhas -- Brahman Incarnates -- what do they have to fear of being
> >> > banned from the domes. 
> > 
> You see? You¹re ridiculing them.

NO I am not. Not in the least. See above. 


> They¹re not afraid of Maharishi. They are
> human beings, whatever their state of consciousness, and don¹t want to
> become objects of ridicule. 

Thats an odd conjunction of statements. And observations and facts. if
others are giving their experiences, and the FF SSers give their
similar experiences, where is the ridicule? 

The domers giving their experiences are not being ridiculed, why would
the FF SSers be ridiculed. The logic makes no sense.


>They have no compelling need to publicize their
> experience.

No they don't. Particulary if they claim "this is my own style of
awakening. It is what it is". 

What is facinating though is that some, perhaps many, claim MMY/TMO
BC. In doing so, then there is a compelling reason to go to the mic:
To have MMY confirm their interpretations of their experience. If they
don't have the cosmic balls to do that, then, I would defer to John --
"MMY is not impressed with imaginations". 

And again, a point often stated, and more often lost it appears, I am
not saying MMY BC is better than the FF SSers awakenings. But at least
in some cases it appears different. So its odd, IMO, for people of
integrity to claim MMY BC, and yet not be confident to discuss and
explore the nuances with MMY. Speaking to MMY on the mic is such a
great thing. That they are too shy or fear ridicule are such hollow
excuses -- its just another oddity that points to other nterpretations
of their experiences.

See my prior comments below. Same idea, other words.

> >> > What MMY may have concerns about, similar to some posters here
-- is
> >> > that some are lableling their experiences as something MMY
feels they
> >> > are not. In the TMO, and most guru systems, the teacher
proclaims the
> >> > label, not the student. The student simply elucidates
experiences --
> >> > and answers questions regarding them. As makes sense. Thus when
> >> > stepping up to the mic, MMY may label the experience other than the
> >> > person feels is the case. i have seen it over and over.
> >> > 







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