At 11:49 AM 10/19/03, d. collins wrote:

>Which reminds me of a question I've always wanted to ask about: in a
>Purcell piece (as published by Carus Verlag), the -ed of displeased has its
>own note. Does this mean it was actually pronounced at the time? When did
>the vocalic sound disappear?

I think it was relatively recent. There's plenty of poetry from 17th
century or thereabouts in which the final "-ed" is pronounced as a separate
syllable.  It persists intermittently into some later verse. Typically, the
"e" is usually marked with a grave accent to indicate the extra syllable,
but I don't know whether the poets wrote it that way or it's a helpful
addition added by a later editor.

Two that come immediately to mind:

To gild refinèd gold, to paint the lily,
(Shakespeare, King John)

But at my back I always hear
Time's wingèd chariot hurrying near:
(Marvell, To His Coy Mistress)

19th century poets (Keats, Tennyson, Whitman, etc) frequently use an
apostrophe for a word in which the "-ed" is NOT an extra syllable, which
suggests that pronouncing the extra syllable was still considered not
unusual.

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At 8:49 AM 10/19/03, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:

>It's still with us, in words like "naked" (unless you pronounce it
>the way my daughter did when she was 7, to rhythm with "flaked.") But
>most of them disappeared I would say at least 100 years ago, perhaps
>more.

"Naked" was never a past participle.  A better example would be "learned",
which preserves its two-syllable pronunciation as a participle but not as a
verb.  Likewise for "cursed", and probably a few others I can't think of
right now.

mdl



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