Just to iterate this further, I visited the IMSLP site and looked at the
horn and trumpet parts for Lohengrin. It calls for horns transposing in (at
various times in 4 horn parts) E, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, A, C, Bb and trumpet
transpositions in C, D, Eb, E, and F.

Entering that many transpositions for the same instrument in Finale 2012
would require maintenance of a spreadsheet to keep it all straight, which
is the most damning evidence of a failed computer program: it would require
you to use a spreadsheet to use it.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Ryan Beard <ry.squa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but it gets complicated when you have a piece with horn in D and horn
> in E and horn in F, and their bass clef counterparts, like so many 19th
> century pieces.
> If MakeMusic can preload the Vuvuzela in the instrument list, they should
> certainly include standard horn and trumpet transpositions.
>
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Christopher Smith <
> christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > Yes, the procedure I outlined is to do just that. It isn't preloaded,
> but it isn't all that difficult. Make this change in your default document
> and you shouldn't have to do it again.
> >
> > Actually, I haven't checked to see if it saves to my default doc. But
> I'm hoping it will work!
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> > On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 7:53 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
> >
> >> The issue is changing to an instrument that isn't already preloaded.
> For example, Horn in D, Horn in E, etc.
> >>
> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Christopher Smith <
> christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 2:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it
> was
> >>>> the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in
> Finale,
> >>>> 2012 is a non-starter because of this problem, esp. if an earlier
> version
> >>>> is available.
> >>>>
> >>>> The transposition problem is that Fin2012 forces you to change
> instruments
> >>>> just to change transposition. While this may make sense for
> saxophones or
> >>>> oboe/e.h., it makes absolutely no sense for trumpets, french horns, or
> >>>> wagner tubas in a 19th century setting.
> >>>
> >>> Robert,
> >>>
> >>> It's not really that big a kludge. Here is the procedure from
> MakeMusic, to change the transposition but keep the same playback.
> >>>
> >>> To change the transposition of a staff you will need to change the
> instrument, then adjust the playback sounds and transposition. To do so:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Use the Selection Tool
> >>> 2. Highlight the measure you would like the transposition to occur in
> >>> 3. Go to Utilities >> Change Instrument and select a different
> instrument (each new transposition on the same line will need a different
> instrument selected. Any single line instrument will work because we will
> change the playback sound)
> >>> 4. Go to Window >> ScoreManager and click on the Instrument List tab
> >>> 5. Just to the left of the instrument name you will see an arrow
> pointing at the name. Click on that arrow to expand that instrument
> information. Select the instrument that you changed the line to at the
> bottom of the expanded section
> >>> 6. With this instrumented selected, you can change the transposition
> with the pull-down menu at the bottom right of the ScoreManager. If it is
> not one of the common transpositions in the menu, you can select Other and
> create your own.
> >>> 7. Still in the ScoreManager, change the playback sound of the new
> instrument by clicking on the assigned sound and selecting Horn in F from
> the pull-down menu.
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