On Jul 6, 10:05 am, Trevan Richins <[email protected]> wrote:
...
> So, I think the biggest problem is that people from 1.3 are used to the "X" 
> minimizing the panel and not deactivating it.  By changing its functionality 
> in 1.4, 1.3 users are now seeing firebug popup when unexpected (if they have 
> "On for all pages") or not recording their network requests.

Yes, I can see this for sure. I did not remember that 1.3 had an [X],
it was my mistake to re-define it.

>
> Again, here's some scenarios that I think are causing the most grief:
>
> 1 - Select "On For all Pages"
> 2 - Firebug opens
> 3 - Minimize (by using the "X" because that is how you did it in 1.3)
> 4 - Go to a new page
> 5 - Firebug opens without being clicked on

Yes, I hope I do not forget to fix this problem.

>
> 1 - Go to a page and open firebug
> 2 - Do some debugging
> 3 - Minimize (by using the "X" because that is how you did it in 1.3)
> 4 - Do some work on the page
> 5 - Reload the page to check some ajax requests or console lines
> 6 - Firebug didn't record the ajax requests or the console lines

Ok, I'll get rid of the [x] in 1.4


>
> 1 - Go to a page and open firebug
> 2 - Minimize (this time with the minimize button because you remembered.  
> Yeah!)
> 2 - Go to another page and open firebug
> 3 - Minimize (by using the "X" because you forgot)
> 4 - Go back to first page
> 5 - Firebug opens unexpectedly (because you had minimized it)

I suggest trying the Firebug Status Bar icon, I like it a lot.

>
> In all scenarios, the mistaken identity of the "X" causes the issues.
>
> What should be done?  It took me a few days to figure out that the "X" in 1.4 
> is different than 1.3 and now I have no problem with it.  But there was no 
> documentation to tell me what was happening.  When I complained on the 
> emailing list, no one explained (mostly my fault because I wasn't explaining 
> myself correctly :) ).  Some ideas, though, to fix it without requiring a 
> relearn or to help relearning it are:
>
> 1 - When you click the "X", an alert saying "Do you really want to deactivate 
> Firebug?" with a box to check for "Never alert me again".
> 2 - Do not have an "X".  Leave the space empty and put a new icon that 
> deactivates next to it.

I am leaning towards: replace [X] icon with [Off] button.

> 3 - Swap the "X" and the "_" icons.
> 4 - Change the "X" to be minimize, and change the "_" icon to something else 
> that does deactivation.
>
> As someone had already mentioned, AdBlock's Blockable Items panel has an "X" 
> that doesn't deactivate AdBlock.  As well as HttpFox.
>
> Just my 2 cents,

Well said, and cheap too ;-)
jjb

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