So this problem would be resolved if the [X] button was removed and a
new button at the same location appeared with a label like [Off] and a
tool tip saying "Deactivate Firebug for this site"?

I want some thing on the primary UI for deactivation.

jjb

On Jul 6, 9:40 am, Nicolas Hatier <[email protected]> wrote:
> As written by many people before me, the [x] button deactivating Firebug
> is not intuitive. We are aware that a X button on an external window
> closes that window, and may close the application if it's the last
> window. But the X button on a panel usually only closes that UI element,
> not the service/application behind it.
>
> Just in Firefox, there is several examples of that: If you click the X
> button on the History panel, Firefox continues to remember you pages
> history. If you have, say, the AdBlock Plus extension and close the
> "blockable items" panel using its X button, AdBlock Plus continues to
> run. There is many other examples.
>
> Of course, the same argument could work in the other direction - If I
> click the X button of a Firefox tab, the tab is closed for good and the
> page behind it is disappeared.
>
> My point is, the "right" (design-wise) thing to do when the X button is
> clicked may or may not be to disable Firebug. But, given the amount of
> feedback received yet, disabling Firebug is probably not the right thing
> to do. We saw a lot of comments telling it's not OK, and a few comments
> telling something along the lines of "I didn't expect that, but I can
> get along with it". I didn't read any comment yet telling something like
> "yay, I didn't understand why the 1.3 X buttn didn't disable Firebug"...
>
> For me, the X button doesn't do what it should, but I can get along with
> it. I would probably prefer the minimize [_] button to be moved where
> the X button currently is, and the X button removed, replaced by two
> menu entries in the Firebug icon right-click menu: "Disable Firebug for
> this page", and "Disable Firebug for this domain", which would simply
> remove the annotations for the page or the domain.
>
> Regards
>
> NH
>
> johnjbarton wrote:
>
> > On Jul 6, 3:54 am, alfonsoml <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> On Jul 5, 7:29 pm, johnjbarton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 5, 9:10 am, alfonsoml <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> An entry in the context menu of the firebug statusbar icon:
> >>>> Disable Firebug for "xyz.com"
>
> >>> I gather you think that a hidden menu entry with text is better than a
> >>> visible iconic button?  Do others agree?  Other choices?
>
> >>> jjb
>
> >> As sir_brizz says, previous versions linked the "close" button just to
> >> the panel, not to the state of Firebug.
>
> > But here again you are proposing a solution where I don't see a
> > problem.
>
> >> For me Firebug is a background task, it must be running always in
> >> every page that I'm working on (based on domains, not on the exact
> >> page url), and I might need to open or close the panel to view some
> >> state, debug a function, etc.. but the panel is just the interface of
> >> Firebug, the internal code that catches errors, keeps trace of network
> >> resources is separate and shouldn't be linked together. If I enable
> >> Firebug for a domain it should work automatically for every page of
> >> that domain until I disable it, without the need to open the panel and
> >> without disabling itself when I close the panel with the same button
> >> that I've been doing since eons ago.
>
> > Ok there are two things I understand from this description.
>
> > First, 1.3 had a [X] that implemented minimize. So you are confused
> > because 1.4 uses [X] for a different purpose. I totally forgot that
> > 1.3 had an [X] button, I thought we added it new to 1.4.
>
> > Second, I'm now in a jam because I need a two icons one for
> > "deactivate" (1.4 uses [X]) and one for minimize (1.4 uses [_]).
>
> > I hope you can understand why I can't just change the [X] button to
> > implement minimize. Then I don't have a button for deactivate and I
> > have two buttons that both implement minimize right next to each
> > other.
>
> > jjb
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