This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Anneli Sundkvist
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> I belive that the colour we call uls or white dun is
> the dilute version of brown dun. 'Lysbrun' which
> (probably) means light brown (dun) is just a lighter
> version of brown dun. This colour is nowadays the
> most common Fjord horse colour, but these horses are
> not carrying the C-gene.

Thanks for letting me know that about the
lysbrun/light brown dun color.  I just assumed that
maybe it had something to do with the cremello gene,
since all the light brown duns I am familiar with
happen to also have an ulsdun grandparent.  A pity it
has become the most common color - therefore, the
favored color - in the Fjord horse.  I really do like
the darker brown duns best.  I always feel like my
lysbrun dun looks 'faded'.  He also has an unusual
coat: it has smoother and rougher spots in the summer.
 The smoother hair is darker colored(like his dam) and
the rougher(longer) hair is light colored(like his
ulsdun granddam).  It makes him look like he has what
we call 'dapples' in his body coat.  Is this something
that lots of lysbrun Fjords have?  He is healthy,
well-fed, and wormed regularly.  Our other Fjords are
the darker brown dun, and have a 'regular' Fjord coat
with no dappling.  I'm afraid my little lysbrun
gelding looks 'moth eaten' next to them! 
> 
> If you breed an uls dun to another dilute colour you
> should have a chance - or risk - of getting a real
> cremello or perlino dun  
  
> There is a cremello or 'kvit' colt on the NFHR web
> page - what colours do his parents have?

I believe his parents were Modellen - an ulsdun
stallion - and Lin - an ulsdun mare.  Apparently there
are six or seven foals from this ulsdun to ulsdun
cross.  I think the horse on the NFHR web page is the
only one who is pure white, or kvit.  I assume 'kvit'
means 'white' in Norwegian - seems I read that
somewhere.  If so, then there would be a reason for at
least one 'kvit' foal from this cross.  Modellen's
grandsire was a horse named Kviten(full brother to our
ulsdun mare Line, which would make his sire Ola Gik
and his dam Flikka).  I assume from this horse's name
that he was probably pure white with no black(dun)
stripe.
You would expect this to come out again somewhere down
the line, especially if the breeding was to another
ulsdun.
 
> Does anyone know if uls duns with grey markings (or
> without eel in mane/tail) have black/white striped
> hooves as foals?

The only spriped hooves I have seen on Fjords were on
red duns - and these were mature horses.  I have seen
a couple of them with some striping on one or two
hooves.  My lysbrun dun gelding had faint stripes on
his front feet as a foal.  His hooves are black now,
and very heavy horned.

Mary
 

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Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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