This message is from: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mary wrote: >> I don't know that much about genetics in horses, but it does seem that the >> (C) gene dilutes the 'brown-ness' of a Fjord's coat - brown dun becomes white dun (or sometimes just lysbrun dun) with the cremello gene, red dun becomes yellow dun, and it seems that white dun(ulsdun) becomes white with no stripes if another cremello (C) gene is added in the next generation>> I belive that the colour we call uls or white dun is the dilute version of brown dun. 'Lysbrun' which (probably) means light brown (dun) is just a lighter version of brown dun. This colour is nowadays the most common Fjord horse colour, but these horses are not carrying the C-gene. If you breed an uls dun to another dilute colour you should have a chance - or risk - of getting a real cremello or perlino dun (there should be a third variety, based on the smokey black colour. It's called 'sotvit' in Swedish, I don't know the English name), BUT shouldn't these have blue eyes? Breeding a dilute horse to another teoretically should give you 50% dilute (buckskin, palomino, smokey black or uls, red or 'smokey grey' dun) 25% non-dilutet (chestnut, bay, black/red, brown, grey dun) and 25% cremellos or perlinos. There is a cremello or 'kvit' colt on the NFHR web page - what colours do his parents have? I also noticed that under the description of uls dun that these horses should have black or GREY eel. Does anyone know if uls duns with grey markings (or without eel in mane/tail) have black/white striped hooves as foals? The hooves turn dark during their first year. Regards Anneli ************************************ Anneli Sundkvist Department of Archaeology & Ancient History Uppsala University St. Eriks Torg 5 S-753 10 Uppsala Sweden Phone: +46-18-471282 (dept.) +46-18-553627 (home)

