Has anyone considered requesting the source file and updating the manual as
a group project?


On Monday, May 27, 2013, Patrick Greenlee wrote:

> Everyone has a personal opinion regarding manuals.  That is fine except
> where you think your personal preference trumps my needs.  I too would like
> a complete and up to date manual and PDF or similar is fine as I have a
> printer.  I would accept a hypertext version even though it precludes
> traditional printed copies.  After all if I don't have a computer to read
> the manual on I won't be running a Flex radio. I want a manual not a
> license to participate in a scavenger hunt trying to find a tidbit here or
> there. I'm not trying to dictate to anyone what they do with information,
> how they get it or how they store/access it but a complete manual with TOC,
> chapters, etc. is not a bad thing, traditional or hypertext.
>
> I have managed software developments and I know that the developers prefer
> slinging code over documenting.  More functionality is nice but if the
> users can't employ it, then so what.  Here I sit with one of the niftiest
> products in the world, the true cat's meow of ham radios and I have to
> participate in an ongoing scavenger hunt for what should be in the basic
> documentation. I'm happy for the individuals who have the time to devote to
> find out how to use this technological marvel and I do appreciate it when
> they share their knowledge but if a proper manual were available mere
> mortals could employ any features available without need to sit at the feet
> of the "priesthood."
>
> I realize we are beating a dead horse and units of output will not be in
> proportion to units of input.  Ask for what you will but "The Team" is off
> chasing the new shiny ball and what was the new shiny ball is now a step
> child.  History will repeat itself. Corporate philosophy/culture, even in a
> young company, is a powerful influence and the most likely outcome as
> regards the manual for the new shiny ball is a repeat of the situation we
> have now. Functionality will easily win out over documentation in the
> contest for attention.  Sales are effected much more strongly by nifty
> features than by the quality of the documentation.  Wait a year and history
> will repeat itself. There will be posts bemoaning the lack of sufficient
> documentation to employ the whoopee capabilities of the 6K series.
>
> I would be absolutely thrilled to be proven wrong but don't suspect to
> receive even mild titillation.
>
> Regarding the idea that the concept of centralized and complete
> documentation is obsolete...  BOVINE EXCREMENT!!!  If you think the
> maintainers and operators of the nation's warfighting capability are
> reduced to web searches and burning incense at the shrine of self appointed
> gurus you are out of touch with reality.  Many manuals are electronic now
> but still complete.  You don't maintain a joint strike fighter, or even a
> predator drone by looking around the internet to find  bits of data to put
> in your iPad.    RANT: MODE=OFF
>
> Patrick AF5CK
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tynan
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:06 PM
> To: John Kramer ; Gedas
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Owners Manual
>
> John:
>
> I'm sure that Goodreader and Apple must be better at storing things than
> Windows with Outlook Express and/or Windows Live Mail. I lost all of the
> many files I had stored. I don't even know what the last OSCAR number
> issued
> was, and I am in charge of issuing OSCAR numbers.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill Tynan, W3XO
>
> ------------------------------**--------------------
> From: "John Kramer" <jkra...@iafrica.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:48 PM
> To: "Gedas" <w8...@mchsi.com>
> Cc: <flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Owners Manual
>
>  With the introduction of the Apple iPad tablet, I now have ALL my
> manuals/service manuals etc all on my tablet.
> There is an app called "Goodreader" for the iPad. Make files in Goodreader
> for the various manufacturers, and
> download your manuals off the internet and into your iPad. Generally
> speaking, my iPad is always with me
> wherever I go, so ALL my manuals including VHF/UHF HT, mobile, HF,
> amplifiers, ATU, noise cancelling units
> etc etc are all on there, and easy and quick to get to. I also have lots
> of other ham apps on the tablet, so it is really
> convenient to have everything on there and take it with me.
> All new manuals that arrive in the boxes, stay untouched and go into my
> filing cabinet, and remain in new
> condition - something that buyers appreciate if I sell the item one day
>
> 73
> John, ZS5J
>
>
>
> On 26 May 2013, at 11:21 PM, "Gedas" <w8...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>  George gets a Gold star IMO !  Exactly my thoughts.  There are tons of
> things I wish I knew more about my radio to make it even more enjoyable.
> Many times I am forced to go hunting for tips & tidbits using forums,
> online groups, & over-the-air nets in the hopes of getting an answer. The
> process can take days or even weeks !  And even then the info found is
> usually not directly from Flex so who knows if it is right.  What's wrong
> with putting it in hard writing once in a while ? An updated manual is not
> asking for too much IMO, esp considering the price of the product. I make
> an effort to look around for answers, but like many, I am forced to give up
> after some time and just forget about it.  I love my Flex but not having a
> good reference document is the greatest shortcoming of my radio.
>
> Gedas, W8BYA
>
> Gallery at http://gedas.cc
> Light travels faster than sound..
> This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "N1naz" <n1...@comcast.net>
> To: <flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:45 PM
> Subject: [Flexradio] Owners Manual
>
>
>    Case in point, if you open up Power SDR, then Setup, then DSP. Under
> the Options tab is  Leak  What does  Leak  do?? There is no explanation in
> the docs that explain in detail what it does! What do I have to spend time
> searching through update docs and forums to find out?
> This was obviously added after the docs where published, what would it
> have taken to add this to the docs and republish?
>   Yes after playing around with it for a few hours and listening you may
> figure it out, but wouldn t it have been a time saver to know before you
> adjusted this what it actually did!
>
> There are other cases like this.
>
> I m just saying that the Flex radios are the best thing out there right
> now (IMO), Why fall short with the docs?
>
> George N1NAZ
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