Hi,

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote:
>
> I remember using VMiX, long ago. I don't recall having much success
> with it at the time, and it ran really slow on my '386. Might have
> been 1992 or 1993, something like that, before I started experimenting
> with Linux.

DR-DOS is fairly good, at least 7.03, e.g. with improved DPMI host
(now compatible with DJGPP). Ran okay on my P166, though since the
floppy drive broke (again) I haven't messed with it as much. Honestly,
though, I rarely felt the pain that would make me want to compile in
the background (since due to various factors I didn't often rebuild
stuff there), but indeed GCC is a slow bastard, esp. for big projects
(and memory hungry too, which indeed could be affected by 64 MB per
task limit). In other words, I never majorly needed multitasking
there. Honestly, it was more comfortable to use XP, but that's harder
to find nowadays (and old cpus break, like mine, eek).

Honestly, Windows/NTVDM or Linux/DOSEMU is good (and necessary) for
both multitasking and networking. I think those two things are the
killer features (though people always whine about 640 kb or segments
or LFNs too).

> Rugxulo found the link (http://www.sysdev.org/). They aren't on
> SourceForge, it seems they are "shareware" instead.

I don't know, I didn't look too too closely, esp. since it was
confusing. I'm not sure if all versions are shareware or just the
newer (2007? beta? 3.x?) ones. There is source code for some of it
(!), but I don't know the licensing. I did see an LGPL "copying" file
somewhere, but I don't know if that applied to the whole or not or
even something else. In fact I doubt it, esp. since one of their ZIPs
had old MS-DOS 5's command.com (and some other tools), ick. So yeah,
that's what I meant by murky / annoying / didn't check too closely.

Anybody else, feel free to take a closer look and report back to us.
But please don't e-mail them and harass them. A simple query might
suffice, but they presumably can't handle all of us nagging them to
death.

> However, VMiX might be worth looking into again. They do multitasking
> on DOS ... anyone here tried it with FreeDOS? I'll have to give it a
> go with FreeDOS on bare metal, since a VM would probably not run well
> (but they do say it supports DOS in Linux DOSEmu.) I'll email the
> developer and see if he'd be willing to release the code under an open
> source license. Their last release was 2007, so either the project
> went stale, or died completely. Might be willing to go open source.

Feel free to do all of those things. I might do so myself too, but
more likely I'll procrastinate and forget as it doesn't "feel"
important or likely to succeed. (I start up and never finish too many
subprojects, ugh, why??) It would be cool, but I'm not getting my
hopes up. I really only responded about some of this (off-topic?) for
completeness in case I forget some of it later (likely), esp. since I
don't have a firm enough grasp of it or specific experience using most
of it.

Oh well, still interesting ....

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