Merhaba Thraex, Saluton Ruĝulo, Thraex, you're right. I have downloaded and installed the new FreeDOS ISO, v1.1 under VirtualBox.
I have noticed the problem concerning the turkish layouts, and I could see that it will affect most national layouts. The problem lies on the way that AUTOEXEC.BAT was created: • The DISPLAY command is issued incorrectly. Sintax error. It has an extra ")". • The REGIONAL.BAT file, used during installation time to allow the user to pick up his keyboard layout, also presents incorrect sintax. There are calls to *.KL files which shouldn't be there. *.KL files are particularly necessary when the end-user himself edits and creates an alternative version of his keyboard layout, which forces him to recompile the source file (in the turkish FGĞIOD case, it is file called "TR440.KEY"), generating a *.KL file, which then is called by KEYB, bypassing the layouts included on the KEYB*.SYS files. In short: the line if "%1"=="19" call %0 setNLS 792 TR 857 EGA TR TR440.KL /ID:440 should simply read if "%1"=="19" call %0 setNLS 792 TR 857 EGA TR /ID:440 ...And all other lines like that. • For some reason (and I don't know why), AUTOEXEC.BAT is created so to look for the turkish FGĞIOD layout on KEYBRD3.SYS, instead of looking for it on KEYBRD2.SYS. • Last but not least — I don't know why, but MODE CON CP SEL=xxx should be included into AUTOEXEC.BAT but it is not and it gets worse: if you include it yourself on AUTOEXEC.BAT (in this case, it would be "MODE CON CP SEL=857") and reboot the virtual machine, that call is solemny ignored!! (However, if you issue it on the command prompt, it works.) So, if there's someone out there reading FD-Devel and knows how to fix it... it's your call! :) Thraex: ben türkçe biraz bilirim. [I know a little turkish.] (I hope I said it right! If not, please correct me! :-)) By the way, Thraex, you can contact me directly at hperon -at- terra.com.br . Ruĝulo: you have written a few sentences in esperanto earlier but I didn't understand... (Sorry!) Could you please translate them? Thanks! :) By the way, Thraex, I could prepare a particular, enhanced version of your french (or would it be belgian?) keyboard, so to type turkish. Just let me know. (A simple way to tell the french from the belgian keyboard: both present a key with "²" but that same key, on the belgian keyboard, also presents "³" when combined with <Shift>.) Henrique Em 29/11/2012 06:25, thraex escreveu: > On 28/11/12 01:50, Rugxulo wrote: >> P.S. More specifically, it would be nice to know which codepage(s) and >> keyboard layouts you personally intend to use for your language. (Or >> did I miss that part?) :-) > You did not. In fact, I just decided to give FreeDOS a try before > installing it for real someday for the sake of the good old days. I > normally use the French AZERTY layout -- for which the install process > works perfectly in FreeDOS btw. But when I saw Turkish options, I > thought I'd check them out and report it if they didn't work. As I speak > Turkish and know the Turkish QWERTY layout the idea was to provide > feedback about features that may be less well tested than others (and > learn a bit in the process). So I fired up VirtualBox and... here I am :) > >> The installer is just a "best guess" type of thing, not perfect by any >> stretch. It may be trite to assume users are already familiar with >> DOS, but that's somewhat implied. > I understand that, but OTOH the keyboard layout shouldn't have to be > guessed IMHO. If the installer provides a choice, the result probably > shouldn't need anything additional from the user. > >> http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/mode.htm >> >> But here's a partial (better?) solution: >> >> ======================================= >> set CPIDIR=%DOSDIR%\cpi >> display con=(ega,,3) >> mode con cp prep=((853) %CPIDIR%\ega.cpx) >> mode con cp prep=((,737,869) %CPIDIR%\ega5.cpx) >> mode con cp sel=%DEFAULT% >> set CPIDIR= >> >> if "%DEFAULT%"=="853" keyb us,,%DOSDIR%\keyboard.sys >> if not "%DEFAULT%"=="853" keyb gk,,%DOSDIR%\keybrd2.sys >> echo. >> echo KEYB: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to disable or Ctrl-Alt-F2 to re-enable! >> echo. >> ======================================= > I added these lines just before the alias commands at the bottom of > autoexec.bat. Here's what I got: > Buffers allocated: 000 in TPA, 003 in XMS > Uncompressing and loading UPXed CPI (CPX) file :-). > Uncompressing and loading UPXed CPI (CPX) file :-). > MODE: Codepage was not found in CPI file > MODE select codepage 61 function failed > MODE: Specified codepage was not found in file > FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0 > > C:\FDOS\keybrd2.sys: Specified file could not be opened. > > KEYB: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to disable or Ctrl-Alt-F2 to re-enable! > > Done processing startup files C:\FDCONFIG.SYS and C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT > > Note that I installed FreeDOS 1.1 on VirtualBox 3.1.6_OSE r59338 which > itself runs on Ubuntu 10.04.4 amd64, so AUTOEXEC.BAT is the standard one > created when the keyboard layout 19 (Turkish) is chosen. Should I have > deleted something? (I see LH KEYB TR,,keybrd2.sys just on top of the > block I typed) > >> Aaah, dotless i, Isildur's bane!!!! :-) > Heh, that's the easy bug I file almost every time. Capital I becomes ı > instead of i when there's a switch to lower case letters. I'm sure this > can save lives: > <http://gizmodo.com/382026/a-cellphones-missing-dot-kills-two-people-puts-three-more-in-jail> > 8-) > > As for me, I had translated an app and all the ŞIK (option, like check > this box...) words became sik which is a very vulgar word in Turkish > (btw, if translations in French or Turkish for FreeDOS would be useful, > I can happily try my best to contribute). > > On 28/11/12 03:04, Henrique Peron wrote: >>> Thanks for explaining, but how do I select these codepages? (...) >> Please check your AUTOEXEC.BAT file. >> >> Make sure there are lines like these: >> >> -------------------- >> display con=(ega,,3) >> mode con cp prepare=((853,857,858) c:\freedos\cpi\ega.cpx) >> mode con cp select=xxx >> keyb tr >> -------------------- > I added these lines just before the alias commands at the bottom of > autoexec.bat (xxx was 858). I got the following error messages (some of > them are probably normal messages which are not related to the issue but > I just typed them anyway): > > Bufferes allocated: 000 in TPA, 003 in XMS > MODE: File not found > MODE select codepage 858 function failed > MODE: Specified codepage was not found in file > FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0 > Keyboard layout : C:\FDOS\BIN\KEYBOARD.SYS > Specified file does not contain information for this layout/id > Done processing startup files C:\FDCONFIG.SYS and C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT > >> The four lines above prepare and select 3 codepages, all available on >> EGA.CPX. You'll trade "xxx" in the third line for: >> >> • 853, if you need to type turkish — and/or esperanto. It is important to >> mention, though, that codepage 853 seems to be considered obsolete on what >> concerns the turkish language. (Codepage 853 is the only one which handles >> esperanto.) >> >> • 857, if you don't need esperanto. A good thing about codepage 857 is that >> it not only seems to be the preferred codepage for turkish; you'll have the >> Euro sign. >> >> • 858, highly recommended to type in "western european" languages. I say >> "recommended" instead of "needed" because you could perfectly use cp857 to >> type in, say, portuguese, spanish, italian, etc., however I don't advise you >> to do that. If you'd like to know why, just let me know. > Heh, now I'm curious. If you have time to explain I'd happily read your > explanation. > >> I'll do that. I use VirtualBox. ;) >>> Çok teşekkürler. >> Birşey değil. > O_o You speak Turkish? > >> Should anything still not goes well as it should, please let me know. > Thanks again for helping out. > > PS: Currently freedos.org returns an "Address Not Found" error but > www.freedos.org works fine. 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