did you run recon-all -all all the way through? you should name your echoes something different like echo1.mgz, echo2.mgz... then specify -dura echo%d.mgz 4

cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:

$ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer $
mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh

it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running recon-all on 
the
RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which is in
s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig. 


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jonathan Holt <whats...@umich.edu> wrote:
      $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer$
      mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh

it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running recon-all on
the RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which is
in s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig. 


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      can you send details about the steps you carried out including full
      command lines?
      On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:

            I've gotten as far as running the mris_make_surfaces on
            the RMS, but after running for a bit it stopped with
            this error

            mghRead (file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz -1): coult
            not open file
            mris_make_surfaces: could not read 0th echo for dura
            localization from file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz

            for reference, the RMS file name is 001.mgz

            jon
            On May 9, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Douglas Greve wrote:


                  the dcmunpack command is right. You should
                  make sure to analyze only the
                  RMS in recon-all (ie , that is the only
                  volume that goes into mri/orig
                  doug


                  On 5/9/13 6:48 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
                        Hi Kayle

                        you would run recon-all on the
                        RMS, then run the dura stuff
                        posthoc.

                        cheers
                        Bruce
                        On Thu,
                        9 May 2013, Kayle Sawyer wrote:

                              Hi all,

                              Can the MEMPRAGE be
                              specified in
                              recon-all with the
                              -i flag? We have
                              been using the
                              MEMPRAGE RMS scans
                              and discarding the
                              multiecho scans. If
                              we instead specify
                              the multiecho scans
                              for recon-all, do
                              we need to give any
                              additional
                              parameters (e.g.
                              the number of
                              echoes) for it to
                              utilize the 4
                              echoes to detect
                              dura and refine
                              pial surfaces in
                              mris_make_surfaces,
                              as described below?
                              Or would we have to
                              run recon-all with
                              the RMS, then after
                              it finishes re-run
                              mris_make_surfaces
                              manually with the
                              -dura flag to
                              refine the pial
                              surface?

                              Also, I'd like to
                              make sure we are
                              using dcmunpack
                              properly. We take
                              the

                        scan.info file and parse it
                        like this: "-run
                        [MEMPRAGE_4e_p2_1mm_iso run
                        number] 3danat mgz 001.mgz" so
                        the multi echo scan gets put
                        into one mgz
                        file, and the RMS gets put into
                        a separate mgz file.
                              Thanks,
                              -Kayle

                              On May 9, 2013, at
                              12:00 PM,
                              freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                              wrote:
                                    Message:
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                                    Date:
                                    Thu, 9
                                    May
                                    2013
                                    10:44:23
                                    -0400
                                    (EDT)
                                    From:
                                    Bruce
                                    Fischl
                                    <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                                    Subject:
                                    Re:
                                    [Freesurfer]
                                    Working
                                    with
                                    MEMPRAGE
                                    To:
                                    Jonathan
                                    Holt
                                    <whats...@umich.edu>
                                    Cc:
                                    freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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                                    it
                                    needs
                                    to be:

                                    mris_make_surfaces
                                    -dura
                                    memprage_echo%d.mgz
                                    4
                                    subjid
                                    lh

                                    note
                                    the "4"
                                    which
                                    tells
                                    it how
                                    many
                                    echoes
                                    to read

                                    On Thu,
                                    9 May
                                    2013,
                                    Jonathan
                                    Holt
                                    wrote:

                                          I
                                          input:

                                          mris_make_surfaces
                                          -dura
                                          memprage_echo%d.mgz
                                          subjid
                                          lh

                                          it
                                          returns:

                                          detecting
                                          dura
                                          using
                                          0
                                          echos
                                          from
                                          memprage_echo%d.mgz


                                          Should
                                          I
                                          execute
                                          the
                                          command
                                          in
                                          the
                                          same
                                          directory
                                          as
                                          the
                                          mgz's?
                                          Should
                                          they
                                          be
                                          set
                                          up
                                          or
                                          placed
                                          in
                                          a
                                          specific
                                          directory?
                                          I
                                          also,
                                          as
                                          with
                                          recon-all,
                                          exported
                                          the
                                          proper
                                          subject
                                          directory
                                          beforehand.


                                          On
                                          May
                                          9,
                                          2013,
                                          at
                                          10:37
                                          AM,
                                          Bruce
                                          Fischl
                                          wrote:

                                                can
                                                you
                                                send
                                                me
                                                the
                                                full
                                                command
                                                line?
                                                It
                                                should
                                                say
                                                4
                                                echoes,
                                                not
                                                0
                                                On
                                                Thu,
                                                9
                                                May
                                                2013,
                                                Jonathan
                                                Holt
                                                wrote:

                                                      Thanks
                                                      Bruce,

                                                      should
                                                      the
                                                      hemisphere's
                                                      be
                                                      processed
                                                      separately,
                                                      or
                                                      how
                                                      do
                                                      I
                                                      signify
                                                      lh
                                                      and
                                                      rh
                                                      simultaneously?

                                                      Also,
                                                      should
                                                      the
                                                      fact
                                                      that
                                                      after
                                                      running
                                                      mris_make_surfaces,
                                                      it
                                                      says
                                                      "detecting
                                                      dura
                                                      using
                                                      0
                                                      echos
                                                      from
                                                      memprage_echo%d.mgz"
                                                      be
                                                      worrisome?
                                                      I've
                                                      got
                                                      4
                                                      different
                                                      echos,
                                                      all
                                                      mgzs
                                                      in
                                                      the
                                                      directory.
                                                      I
                                                      have
                                                      a
                                                      feeling
                                                      I'm
                                                      doing
                                                      this
                                                      incorrectly.

                                                      jon
                                                      On
                                                      May
                                                      9,
                                                      2013,
                                                      at
                                                      8:50
                                                      AM,
                                                      Bruce
                                                      Fischl
                                                      wrote:

                                                            Hi
                                                            Jon

                                                            yes,
                                                            the
                                                            subject
                                                            and
                                                            hemi
                                                            need
                                                            to
                                                            be
                                                            defined
                                                            (they
                                                            are
                                                            required
                                                            parameters)
                                                            Bruce
                                                            On
                                                            Wed,
                                                            8
                                                            May
                                                            2013,
                                                            Jonathan
                                                            Holt
                                                            wrote:

                                                                  Hi
                                                                  all,
                                                                  combed
                                                                  through
                                                                  the
                                                                  mail
                                                                  archives
                                                                  to
                                                                  figure
                                                                  out
                                                                  how
                                                                  to
                                                                  work
                                                                  with
                                                                  multi
                                                                  echo
                                                                  mprage,
                                                                  found
                                                                  what
                                                                  I
                                                                  need
                                                                  but
                                                                  I
                                                                  wanted
                                                                  to
                                                                  confirm
                                                                  which
                                                                  of
                                                                  these
                                                                  two
                                                                  commands
                                                                  is
                                                                  the
                                                                  appropriate
                                                                  
mris_make_surfaces
                                                                  -dura
                                                                  
memprage_echo%d.mgz
                                                                  4
                                                                  subjid
                                                                  lh/rh
                                                                  
mris_make_surfaces
                                                                  -dura
                                                                  
memprage_echo%d.mgz
                                                                  do
                                                                  the
                                                                  subjid
                                                                  and
                                                                  hemispheres
                                                                  need
                                                                  to
                                                                  be
                                                                  specified
                                                                  as
                                                                  per
                                                                  the
                                                                  1st
                                                                  line?
                                                                  jon


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