will convert individually, should they eventually be stored in the same 
directory as the RMS'd mgz, with the same file name + invidivual numbers? 

after which I'd proceed with mris_make_surfaces?


jon
On May 10, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Jonathan Holt wrote:

> I ran mri_convert on the RMS'd nifti, then recon-all on that. I don't 
> understand how I can go from 1 RMS'd mgz back to 4 separate echos? 
> 
> jon
> On May 10, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
> 
>> did you run recon-all -all all the way through? you should name your echoes 
>> something different like echo1.mgz, echo2.mgz... then specify -dura 
>> echo%d.mgz 4
>> 
>> cheers
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>> 
>>> $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer $
>>> mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh
>>> it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running 
>>> recon-all on the
>>> RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which is in
>>> s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig. 
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jonathan Holt <whats...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>     $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer$
>>>     mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh
>>> it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running 
>>> recon-all on
>>> the RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which 
>>> is
>>> in s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig. 
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>     can you send details about the steps you carried out including full
>>>     command lines?
>>>     On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>>> 
>>>           I've gotten as far as running the mris_make_surfaces on
>>>           the RMS, but after running for a bit it stopped with
>>>           this error
>>> 
>>>           mghRead (file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz -1): coult
>>>           not open file
>>>           mris_make_surfaces: could not read 0th echo for dura
>>>           localization from file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz
>>> 
>>>           for reference, the RMS file name is 001.mgz
>>> 
>>>           jon
>>>           On May 9, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>> 
>>>                 the dcmunpack command is right. You should
>>>                 make sure to analyze only the
>>>                 RMS in recon-all (ie , that is the only
>>>                 volume that goes into mri/orig
>>>                 doug
>>> 
>>>                 On 5/9/13 6:48 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>>                       Hi Kayle
>>> 
>>>                       you would run recon-all on the
>>>                       RMS, then run the dura stuff
>>>                       posthoc.
>>> 
>>>                       cheers
>>>                       Bruce
>>>                       On Thu,
>>>                       9 May 2013, Kayle Sawyer wrote:
>>> 
>>>                             Hi all,
>>> 
>>>                             Can the MEMPRAGE be
>>>                             specified in
>>>                             recon-all with the
>>>                             -i flag? We have
>>>                             been using the
>>>                             MEMPRAGE RMS scans
>>>                             and discarding the
>>>                             multiecho scans. If
>>>                             we instead specify
>>>                             the multiecho scans
>>>                             for recon-all, do
>>>                             we need to give any
>>>                             additional
>>>                             parameters (e.g.
>>>                             the number of
>>>                             echoes) for it to
>>>                             utilize the 4
>>>                             echoes to detect
>>>                             dura and refine
>>>                             pial surfaces in
>>>                             mris_make_surfaces,
>>>                             as described below?
>>>                             Or would we have to
>>>                             run recon-all with
>>>                             the RMS, then after
>>>                             it finishes re-run
>>>                             mris_make_surfaces
>>>                             manually with the
>>>                             -dura flag to
>>>                             refine the pial
>>>                             surface?
>>> 
>>>                             Also, I'd like to
>>>                             make sure we are
>>>                             using dcmunpack
>>>                             properly. We take
>>>                             the
>>> 
>>>                       scan.info file and parse it
>>>                       like this: "-run
>>>                       [MEMPRAGE_4e_p2_1mm_iso run
>>>                       number] 3danat mgz 001.mgz" so
>>>                       the multi echo scan gets put
>>>                       into one mgz
>>>                       file, and the RMS gets put into
>>>                       a separate mgz file.
>>>                             Thanks,
>>>                             -Kayle
>>> 
>>>                             On May 9, 2013, at
>>>                             12:00 PM,
>>>                             freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>                             wrote:
>>>                                   Message:
>>>                                   35
>>>                                   Date:
>>>                                   Thu, 9
>>>                                   May
>>>                                   2013
>>>                                   10:44:23
>>>                                   -0400
>>>                                   (EDT)
>>>                                   From:
>>>                                   Bruce
>>>                                   Fischl
>>>                                   <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>                                   Subject:
>>>                                   Re:
>>>                                   [Freesurfer]
>>>                                   Working
>>>                                   with
>>>                                   MEMPRAGE
>>>                                   To:
>>>                                   Jonathan
>>>                                   Holt
>>>                                   <whats...@umich.edu>
>>>                                   Cc:
>>>                                   freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>                                   Message-ID:
>>> 
>>>                                   
>>> <alpine.lrh.2.02.1305091043500.13...@gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>                                   Content-Type:
>>>                                   TEXT/PLAIN;
>>>                                   format=flowed;
>>>                                   charset=US-ASCII
>>> 
>>>                                   it
>>>                                   needs
>>>                                   to be:
>>> 
>>>                                   mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                   -dura
>>>                                   memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                   4
>>>                                   subjid
>>>                                   lh
>>> 
>>>                                   note
>>>                                   the "4"
>>>                                   which
>>>                                   tells
>>>                                   it how
>>>                                   many
>>>                                   echoes
>>>                                   to read
>>> 
>>>                                   On Thu,
>>>                                   9 May
>>>                                   2013,
>>>                                   Jonathan
>>>                                   Holt
>>>                                   wrote:
>>> 
>>>                                         I
>>>                                         input:
>>> 
>>>                                         mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                         -dura
>>>                                         memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                         subjid
>>>                                         lh
>>> 
>>>                                         it
>>>                                         returns:
>>> 
>>>                                         detecting
>>>                                         dura
>>>                                         using
>>>                                         0
>>>                                         echos
>>>                                         from
>>>                                         memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>> 
>>>                                         Should
>>>                                         I
>>>                                         execute
>>>                                         the
>>>                                         command
>>>                                         in
>>>                                         the
>>>                                         same
>>>                                         directory
>>>                                         as
>>>                                         the
>>>                                         mgz's?
>>>                                         Should
>>>                                         they
>>>                                         be
>>>                                         set
>>>                                         up
>>>                                         or
>>>                                         placed
>>>                                         in
>>>                                         a
>>>                                         specific
>>>                                         directory?
>>>                                         I
>>>                                         also,
>>>                                         as
>>>                                         with
>>>                                         recon-all,
>>>                                         exported
>>>                                         the
>>>                                         proper
>>>                                         subject
>>>                                         directory
>>>                                         beforehand.
>>> 
>>>                                         On
>>>                                         May
>>>                                         9,
>>>                                         2013,
>>>                                         at
>>>                                         10:37
>>>                                         AM,
>>>                                         Bruce
>>>                                         Fischl
>>>                                         wrote:
>>> 
>>>                                               can
>>>                                               you
>>>                                               send
>>>                                               me
>>>                                               the
>>>                                               full
>>>                                               command
>>>                                               line?
>>>                                               It
>>>                                               should
>>>                                               say
>>>                                               4
>>>                                               echoes,
>>>                                               not
>>>                                               0
>>>                                               On
>>>                                               Thu,
>>>                                               9
>>>                                               May
>>>                                               2013,
>>>                                               Jonathan
>>>                                               Holt
>>>                                               wrote:
>>> 
>>>                                                     Thanks
>>>                                                     Bruce,
>>> 
>>>                                                     should
>>>                                                     the
>>>                                                     hemisphere's
>>>                                                     be
>>>                                                     processed
>>>                                                     separately,
>>>                                                     or
>>>                                                     how
>>>                                                     do
>>>                                                     I
>>>                                                     signify
>>>                                                     lh
>>>                                                     and
>>>                                                     rh
>>>                                                     simultaneously?
>>> 
>>>                                                     Also,
>>>                                                     should
>>>                                                     the
>>>                                                     fact
>>>                                                     that
>>>                                                     after
>>>                                                     running
>>>                                                     mris_make_surfaces,
>>>                                                     it
>>>                                                     says
>>>                                                     "detecting
>>>                                                     dura
>>>                                                     using
>>>                                                     0
>>>                                                     echos
>>>                                                     from
>>>                                                     memprage_echo%d.mgz"
>>>                                                     be
>>>                                                     worrisome?
>>>                                                     I've
>>>                                                     got
>>>                                                     4
>>>                                                     different
>>>                                                     echos,
>>>                                                     all
>>>                                                     mgzs
>>>                                                     in
>>>                                                     the
>>>                                                     directory.
>>>                                                     I
>>>                                                     have
>>>                                                     a
>>>                                                     feeling
>>>                                                     I'm
>>>                                                     doing
>>>                                                     this
>>>                                                     incorrectly.
>>> 
>>>                                                     jon
>>>                                                     On
>>>                                                     May
>>>                                                     9,
>>>                                                     2013,
>>>                                                     at
>>>                                                     8:50
>>>                                                     AM,
>>>                                                     Bruce
>>>                                                     Fischl
>>>                                                     wrote:
>>> 
>>>                                                           Hi
>>>                                                           Jon
>>> 
>>>                                                           yes,
>>>                                                           the
>>>                                                           subject
>>>                                                           and
>>>                                                           hemi
>>>                                                           need
>>>                                                           to
>>>                                                           be
>>>                                                           defined
>>>                                                           (they
>>>                                                           are
>>>                                                           required
>>>                                                           parameters)
>>>                                                           Bruce
>>>                                                           On
>>>                                                           Wed,
>>>                                                           8
>>>                                                           May
>>>                                                           2013,
>>>                                                           Jonathan
>>>                                                           Holt
>>>                                                           wrote:
>>> 
>>>                                                                 Hi
>>>                                                                 all,
>>>                                                                 combed
>>>                                                                 through
>>>                                                                 the
>>>                                                                 mail
>>>                                                                 archives
>>>                                                                 to
>>>                                                                 figure
>>>                                                                 out
>>>                                                                 how
>>>                                                                 to
>>>                                                                 work
>>>                                                                 with
>>>                                                                 multi
>>>                                                                 echo
>>>                                                                 mprage,
>>>                                                                 found
>>>                                                                 what
>>>                                                                 I
>>>                                                                 need
>>>                                                                 but
>>>                                                                 I
>>>                                                                 wanted
>>>                                                                 to
>>>                                                                 confirm
>>>                                                                 which
>>>                                                                 of
>>>                                                                 these
>>>                                                                 two
>>>                                                                 commands
>>>                                                                 is
>>>                                                                 the
>>>                                                                 appropriate
>>>                                                                 
>>> mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                                                 -dura
>>>                                                                 
>>> memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                                                 4
>>>                                                                 subjid
>>>                                                                 lh/rh
>>>                                                                 
>>> mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                                                 -dura
>>>                                                                 
>>> memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                                                 do
>>>                                                                 the
>>>                                                                 subjid
>>>                                                                 and
>>>                                                                 hemispheres
>>>                                                                 need
>>>                                                                 to
>>>                                                                 be
>>>                                                                 specified
>>>                                                                 as
>>>                                                                 per
>>>                                                                 the
>>>                                                                 1st
>>>                                                                 line?
>>>                                                                 jon
>>> 
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