how are the echoes stored now? If they are in separate series just convert 
the individually. If in a single multi-frame file, use

foreach echo (0 1 2 3)
        mri_convert -nth  $echo <input> echo${echo}.mgz
end

cheers
Bruce



On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:

> I ran mri_convert on the RMS'd nifti, then recon-all on that. I don't 
> understand how I can go from 1 RMS'd mgz back to 4 separate echos?
>
> jon
> On May 10, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>
>> did you run recon-all -all all the way through? you should name your echoes 
>> something different like echo1.mgz, echo2.mgz... then specify -dura 
>> echo%d.mgz 4
>>
>> cheers
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>>
>>> $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer $
>>> mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh
>>> it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running 
>>> recon-all on the
>>> RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which is in
>>> s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig.
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jonathan Holt <whats...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>      $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer$
>>>      mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh
>>> it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running 
>>> recon-all on
>>> the RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which 
>>> is
>>> in s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig.
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>      can you send details about the steps you carried out including full
>>>      command lines?
>>>      On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>>>
>>>            I've gotten as far as running the mris_make_surfaces on
>>>            the RMS, but after running for a bit it stopped with
>>>            this error
>>>
>>>            mghRead (file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz -1): coult
>>>            not open file
>>>            mris_make_surfaces: could not read 0th echo for dura
>>>            localization from file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz
>>>
>>>            for reference, the RMS file name is 001.mgz
>>>
>>>            jon
>>>            On May 9, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>
>>>                  the dcmunpack command is right. You should
>>>                  make sure to analyze only the
>>>                  RMS in recon-all (ie , that is the only
>>>                  volume that goes into mri/orig
>>>                  doug
>>>
>>>                  On 5/9/13 6:48 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>>                        Hi Kayle
>>>
>>>                        you would run recon-all on the
>>>                        RMS, then run the dura stuff
>>>                        posthoc.
>>>
>>>                        cheers
>>>                        Bruce
>>>                        On Thu,
>>>                        9 May 2013, Kayle Sawyer wrote:
>>>
>>>                              Hi all,
>>>
>>>                              Can the MEMPRAGE be
>>>                              specified in
>>>                              recon-all with the
>>>                              -i flag? We have
>>>                              been using the
>>>                              MEMPRAGE RMS scans
>>>                              and discarding the
>>>                              multiecho scans. If
>>>                              we instead specify
>>>                              the multiecho scans
>>>                              for recon-all, do
>>>                              we need to give any
>>>                              additional
>>>                              parameters (e.g.
>>>                              the number of
>>>                              echoes) for it to
>>>                              utilize the 4
>>>                              echoes to detect
>>>                              dura and refine
>>>                              pial surfaces in
>>>                              mris_make_surfaces,
>>>                              as described below?
>>>                              Or would we have to
>>>                              run recon-all with
>>>                              the RMS, then after
>>>                              it finishes re-run
>>>                              mris_make_surfaces
>>>                              manually with the
>>>                              -dura flag to
>>>                              refine the pial
>>>                              surface?
>>>
>>>                              Also, I'd like to
>>>                              make sure we are
>>>                              using dcmunpack
>>>                              properly. We take
>>>                              the
>>>
>>>                        scan.info file and parse it
>>>                        like this: "-run
>>>                        [MEMPRAGE_4e_p2_1mm_iso run
>>>                        number] 3danat mgz 001.mgz" so
>>>                        the multi echo scan gets put
>>>                        into one mgz
>>>                        file, and the RMS gets put into
>>>                        a separate mgz file.
>>>                              Thanks,
>>>                              -Kayle
>>>
>>>                              On May 9, 2013, at
>>>                              12:00 PM,
>>>                              freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>                              wrote:
>>>                                    Message:
>>>                                    35
>>>                                    Date:
>>>                                    Thu, 9
>>>                                    May
>>>                                    2013
>>>                                    10:44:23
>>>                                    -0400
>>>                                    (EDT)
>>>                                    From:
>>>                                    Bruce
>>>                                    Fischl
>>>                                    <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>                                    Subject:
>>>                                    Re:
>>>                                    [Freesurfer]
>>>                                    Working
>>>                                    with
>>>                                    MEMPRAGE
>>>                                    To:
>>>                                    Jonathan
>>>                                    Holt
>>>                                    <whats...@umich.edu>
>>>                                    Cc:
>>>                                    freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>                                    Message-ID:
>>>
>>>                                    
>>> <alpine.lrh.2.02.1305091043500.13...@gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>                                    Content-Type:
>>>                                    TEXT/PLAIN;
>>>                                    format=flowed;
>>>                                    charset=US-ASCII
>>>
>>>                                    it
>>>                                    needs
>>>                                    to be:
>>>
>>>                                    mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                    -dura
>>>                                    memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                    4
>>>                                    subjid
>>>                                    lh
>>>
>>>                                    note
>>>                                    the "4"
>>>                                    which
>>>                                    tells
>>>                                    it how
>>>                                    many
>>>                                    echoes
>>>                                    to read
>>>
>>>                                    On Thu,
>>>                                    9 May
>>>                                    2013,
>>>                                    Jonathan
>>>                                    Holt
>>>                                    wrote:
>>>
>>>                                          I
>>>                                          input:
>>>
>>>                                          mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                          -dura
>>>                                          memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                          subjid
>>>                                          lh
>>>
>>>                                          it
>>>                                          returns:
>>>
>>>                                          detecting
>>>                                          dura
>>>                                          using
>>>                                          0
>>>                                          echos
>>>                                          from
>>>                                          memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>
>>>                                          Should
>>>                                          I
>>>                                          execute
>>>                                          the
>>>                                          command
>>>                                          in
>>>                                          the
>>>                                          same
>>>                                          directory
>>>                                          as
>>>                                          the
>>>                                          mgz's?
>>>                                          Should
>>>                                          they
>>>                                          be
>>>                                          set
>>>                                          up
>>>                                          or
>>>                                          placed
>>>                                          in
>>>                                          a
>>>                                          specific
>>>                                          directory?
>>>                                          I
>>>                                          also,
>>>                                          as
>>>                                          with
>>>                                          recon-all,
>>>                                          exported
>>>                                          the
>>>                                          proper
>>>                                          subject
>>>                                          directory
>>>                                          beforehand.
>>>
>>>                                          On
>>>                                          May
>>>                                          9,
>>>                                          2013,
>>>                                          at
>>>                                          10:37
>>>                                          AM,
>>>                                          Bruce
>>>                                          Fischl
>>>                                          wrote:
>>>
>>>                                                can
>>>                                                you
>>>                                                send
>>>                                                me
>>>                                                the
>>>                                                full
>>>                                                command
>>>                                                line?
>>>                                                It
>>>                                                should
>>>                                                say
>>>                                                4
>>>                                                echoes,
>>>                                                not
>>>                                                0
>>>                                                On
>>>                                                Thu,
>>>                                                9
>>>                                                May
>>>                                                2013,
>>>                                                Jonathan
>>>                                                Holt
>>>                                                wrote:
>>>
>>>                                                      Thanks
>>>                                                      Bruce,
>>>
>>>                                                      should
>>>                                                      the
>>>                                                      hemisphere's
>>>                                                      be
>>>                                                      processed
>>>                                                      separately,
>>>                                                      or
>>>                                                      how
>>>                                                      do
>>>                                                      I
>>>                                                      signify
>>>                                                      lh
>>>                                                      and
>>>                                                      rh
>>>                                                      simultaneously?
>>>
>>>                                                      Also,
>>>                                                      should
>>>                                                      the
>>>                                                      fact
>>>                                                      that
>>>                                                      after
>>>                                                      running
>>>                                                      mris_make_surfaces,
>>>                                                      it
>>>                                                      says
>>>                                                      "detecting
>>>                                                      dura
>>>                                                      using
>>>                                                      0
>>>                                                      echos
>>>                                                      from
>>>                                                      memprage_echo%d.mgz"
>>>                                                      be
>>>                                                      worrisome?
>>>                                                      I've
>>>                                                      got
>>>                                                      4
>>>                                                      different
>>>                                                      echos,
>>>                                                      all
>>>                                                      mgzs
>>>                                                      in
>>>                                                      the
>>>                                                      directory.
>>>                                                      I
>>>                                                      have
>>>                                                      a
>>>                                                      feeling
>>>                                                      I'm
>>>                                                      doing
>>>                                                      this
>>>                                                      incorrectly.
>>>
>>>                                                      jon
>>>                                                      On
>>>                                                      May
>>>                                                      9,
>>>                                                      2013,
>>>                                                      at
>>>                                                      8:50
>>>                                                      AM,
>>>                                                      Bruce
>>>                                                      Fischl
>>>                                                      wrote:
>>>
>>>                                                            Hi
>>>                                                            Jon
>>>
>>>                                                            yes,
>>>                                                            the
>>>                                                            subject
>>>                                                            and
>>>                                                            hemi
>>>                                                            need
>>>                                                            to
>>>                                                            be
>>>                                                            defined
>>>                                                            (they
>>>                                                            are
>>>                                                            required
>>>                                                            parameters)
>>>                                                            Bruce
>>>                                                            On
>>>                                                            Wed,
>>>                                                            8
>>>                                                            May
>>>                                                            2013,
>>>                                                            Jonathan
>>>                                                            Holt
>>>                                                            wrote:
>>>
>>>                                                                  Hi
>>>                                                                  all,
>>>                                                                  combed
>>>                                                                  through
>>>                                                                  the
>>>                                                                  mail
>>>                                                                  archives
>>>                                                                  to
>>>                                                                  figure
>>>                                                                  out
>>>                                                                  how
>>>                                                                  to
>>>                                                                  work
>>>                                                                  with
>>>                                                                  multi
>>>                                                                  echo
>>>                                                                  mprage,
>>>                                                                  found
>>>                                                                  what
>>>                                                                  I
>>>                                                                  need
>>>                                                                  but
>>>                                                                  I
>>>                                                                  wanted
>>>                                                                  to
>>>                                                                  confirm
>>>                                                                  which
>>>                                                                  of
>>>                                                                  these
>>>                                                                  two
>>>                                                                  commands
>>>                                                                  is
>>>                                                                  the
>>>                                                                  appropriate
>>>                                                                  
>>> mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                                                  -dura
>>>                                                                  
>>> memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                                                  4
>>>                                                                  subjid
>>>                                                                  lh/rh
>>>                                                                  
>>> mris_make_surfaces
>>>                                                                  -dura
>>>                                                                  
>>> memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>                                                                  do
>>>                                                                  the
>>>                                                                  subjid
>>>                                                                  and
>>>                                                                  hemispheres
>>>                                                                  need
>>>                                                                  to
>>>                                                                  be
>>>                                                                  specified
>>>                                                                  as
>>>                                                                  per
>>>                                                                  the
>>>                                                                  1st
>>>                                                                  line?
>>>                                                                  jon
>>>
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