The real power of the Mini-ITX boards comes from the fact that they are quiet, small, 
and low power. If recording could be stripped out to a separate machine stored in a 
closet then you'll have a much quieter home theater experience. Personnaly, one reason 
I don't just go with a Tivo is that it can only record one channel at a time. With 
Freevo coming along as nicely as it is, my plan is to have a powerful file server 
capable of recording from as many channels as I have tuner cards. I can't imagine 
having such a machine in my living room.

~Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Leitner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] Anybody using a Shuttle PC with freevo?


Hi Jim,

On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 19:54, Jim Lavin wrote:
> I actually tried the earlier Shuttle FV24 systems. You're right they do have
> more power than the VIA EPIA boards. Biggest problem I had was with getting
> everything in the little box. Especially the WINTV boards. They seem to be a
> little wider than your average PCI card making it a tight fit. Once you get
> the hard drive, cd-rom, cards and floppy in place you might find you have a
> pretty compact little unit.

I think i can cope without fdd (maybe even without hdd - i have a file
server, but i am not sure how to boot then - flash-ide is an idea)

> I'm currently working on a VIA EPIA MX board in a case I found through
> www.mini-itx.com and have found the type of silent PC you're talking about.
> Be careful when you are picking cases some of them have low-profile PCI
> slots that make it hard to fit a TV card in to. I ended up going with a ATI
> TV/Wonder VE since had a small enough profile to fit in the case I'm using.
> The VIA motherboard has a 933 Mhz, support for 133Mhz SDRAM, SVideo and RCA
> Composite out which makes it perfect for just this type of project. The
> newer boards will have a 1Ghz processor on them and uses the faster memory.

Did you run some benchmarks on the system? I know 933 Mhz CPU f and
133Mhz fsb f sound like plenty, but IIRC you cannot just put in an Intel
or AMD CPU but need to use an Eden or C3 processor. And all I heard from
then was they perform badly on integer and floating point operations -
which I think have a major influence on video de and enconding. I am no
expert, but from what I heard even the brand new faster processor (the
1GHz one) might not be up to the task of compressing TV to mpeg
realtime.

I would be _more_ than happy to stand corrected though. So if you can
_please_ prove me wrong (;

> If you can't find the right looking case look at the projects page at
> www.mini-itx.com to see what some folks have done. Gives a whole new meaning
> to hiding a computer.

nice link, thanks!

regards,
Andreas



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