On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 18:42, Florian Demmer wrote:
> StormeRider wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 08:37, Roh . wrote:
> >
> >>>What type of hardware do I need to be able to set up a freevo box with
> >>>digital cable?
> >>>
> >>how about a digital tuner card? just the same as analogue but its digital!!
> >>
> >
> >Uh... digital cable isn't based on a standard like broadcast cable.
> >There aren't tuner cards for it.
> >
> >This kind of smartass answer is what makes people new to Open Source
> >think we're jackasses.
> >
> no, the jackass thing comes from mails like yours, not the answers. and 
> what the hell has this to do with opensource!? ask someone at microsoft 
> about your problem, i dont thing they would be more friendly just 
> because the dont offer code for free...
> 

There are two reasons to use Open Source: to take the code and do custom
things with it that the maintainers don't plan on adding or havent
gotten to yet, or to avoid the price tag of proprietary software. If you
go the latter route, you don't have someone responsible for supporting
you. That's a big con in most people's books, but OS advocates have
constantly responded by pointing to the community support that most OS
projects have.

That advocacy often breaks down when people in the community flame
people for asking questions about what they don't know. It's hard to get
support when you get yelled at for asking questions.

> anyway. of course there are cards for digital television (3 ones to be 
> exact: using satellite, using terrestal radio and using cable) sat cards 
> have been around for a while, and hauppauge for example, offers cards 
> for digital cable too (at least in europe). 

Directly from the Freevo FAQ:

"26 I have digital cable, can freevo record programs by tuning it
directly?

Digital Cable in the United States has not been standardized. There are
currently no support for tuning digital tv natively in freevo at the
moment. Depending on your hardware (whether you have a serial or a port
for recieving IR signals (looks like a headphone jack)) you might be
able to use scripts to tune your digital cable box but these scripts
will unfortuneately be hardware specific. Another option maybe an IR
signal sender like IRblaster but again custom scripting will be
required. Digital Cable users in Europe might be able to use
linuxtv.org."

I'm in the US, and have yet to see any cards for digital cable tuning
here. It looks like it's different in Europe, but that doesn't help me
;-)

> you still need a decoder for 
> most digital channels... no watching all commercial free channels 
> without paying... (dont know about terrestal radio cards)
> 

The digital cable provider I have (COX) offers digital cable via their
box. Extensions in the house receive basic analog cable, unless you pop
for another box. So while I can get USA/SciFi/TNT/TVLAND/etc, I can only
get HBO/Cinemax/etc via their box. Since I plan on moving the freevo box
out to the living room I don't see the point in popping for another box
when it's the same from a technical perspective.

I'm not looking to decode channels I haven't paid for, like PPV or
anything-- just looking to set it up for the ones I have that I can't
using the basic setup.

> best way to get you hardware is got to your next local computer store 
> and ask someone there... they get paid for talking to you.
> 
> Flo
> 
> ps: at least write using your real name, kid!
> 

There's a lack of good computer stores in the area, especially given my
lack of a car at the moment. Most of the stores in the area have a hard
time telling the difference between a gender-bender and a null modem
adapter.

I don't expect free communities to solve all my problems for me. I just
hope for civility in responses rather than a knee-jerk assumption that
I'm a clueless idiot for asking something they think is obvious.

As for my name... I've been using this online since '96 (and I'm hardly
a kid). Does it really matter if I use an alias for my email or sign my
real name? It's one of several email accounts I have to organize my
mail.

-- 
Nathan P. Clemons, Sun Microsystems CSA (2.6)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
(Yahoo) StormeRidr        (AIM) StormeRidr



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