On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 18:42, Florian Demmer wrote:true. but you asked about a tv card, not about freevo. no one would have said anything if you had asked about something freevo, that is not documented. maybe it was a combination of unlucky formulation in the first mail that started all this (or "Roh ." had a bad day :)
StormeRider wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 08:37, Roh . wrote:no, the jackass thing comes from mails like yours, not the answers. and what the hell has this to do with opensource!? ask someone at microsoft about your problem, i dont thing they would be more friendly just because the dont offer code for free...
how about a digital tuner card? just the same as analogue but its digital!!What type of hardware do I need to be able to set up a freevo box with digital cable?
Uh... digital cable isn't based on a standard like broadcast cable. There aren't tuner cards for it.
This kind of smartass answer is what makes people new to Open Source think we're jackasses.
There are two reasons to use Open Source: to take the code and do custom things with it that the maintainers don't plan on adding or havent gotten to yet, or to avoid the price tag of proprietary software. If you go the latter route, you don't have someone responsible for supporting you. That's a big con in most people's books, but OS advocates have constantly responded by pointing to the community support that most OS projects have.
That advocacy often breaks down when people in the community flame
people for asking questions about what they don't know. It's hard to get
support when you get yelled at for asking questions.
k... you didnt say where you are and i didnt know that there are no standards in the us. ( but i found http://www.atsc.org)
anyway. of course there are cards for digital television (3 ones to be exact: using satellite, using terrestal radio and using cable) sat cards have been around for a while, and hauppauge for example, offers cards for digital cable too (at least in europe).
Directly from the Freevo FAQ:
"26 I have digital cable, can freevo record programs by tuning it directly?
Digital Cable in the United States has not been standardized. There are currently no support for tuning digital tv natively in freevo at the moment. Depending on your hardware (whether you have a serial or a port for recieving IR signals (looks like a headphone jack)) you might be able to use scripts to tune your digital cable box but these scripts will unfortuneately be hardware specific. Another option maybe an IR signal sender like IRblaster but again custom scripting will be required. Digital Cable users in Europe might be able to use linuxtv.org."
I'm in the US, and have yet to see any cards for digital cable tuning here. It looks like it's different in Europe, but that doesn't help me ;-)
my provider offers that too. their own digital tv using their box with decoder(chip)card. but it does not work without their box (at least they say; technically, i dont know)you still need a decoder for most digital channels... no watching all commercial free channels without paying... (dont know about terrestal radio cards)
The digital cable provider I have (COX) offers digital cable via their box. Extensions in the house receive basic analog cable, unless you pop for another box. So while I can get USA/SciFi/TNT/TVLAND/etc, I can only get HBO/Cinemax/etc via their box. Since I plan on moving the freevo box out to the living room I don't see the point in popping for another box when it's the same from a technical perspective.
I'm not looking to decode channels I haven't paid for, like PPV or anything-- just looking to set it up for the ones I have that I can't using the basic setup.
the one hauppauge card i mentioned can use such decodercards, but i dont know anything about software to buy pay per view shows or such things. i dont recall the model name of that card but here is something: http://www.hauppauge.com/html/products.htm#digital
...that assumption partly comes from the (nick)name.. a fact i learned in usenet 5 years ago :Pbest way to get you hardware is got to your next local computer store and ask someone there... they get paid for talking to you.
Flo
ps: at least write using your real name, kid!
There's a lack of good computer stores in the area, especially given my lack of a car at the moment. Most of the stores in the area have a hard time telling the difference between a gender-bender and a null modem adapter.
I don't expect free communities to solve all my problems for me. I just
hope for civility in responses rather than a knee-jerk assumption that
I'm a clueless idiot for asking something they think is obvious.
As for my name... I've been using this online since '96 (and I'm hardlyi am sure the reaction would have been completely different with that signature in the first mail: "Nathan P. Clemons, Sun Microsystems CSA (2.6)"
a kid). Does it really matter if I use an alias for my email or sign my
real name? It's one of several email accounts I have to organize my
mail.
good night (europe :P)
Flo
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