On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Stephen Rowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stephen

>  It might work for ivtv, it doesn't work for DVB ;) I should have made that
>  a bit clearer! A lot of this is made better with the dvbstreamer plug-in
Good point I don't use DVB (yet).

>  but fast forward and rewind do not work, at least not in the sense that
>  any end user would be expecting, fast forward does not mean "skip
>  30seconds" and rewind does not mean "skip back 30 seconds". Fast forward
>  and rewind are a continuous operation, most PVR's support this at multiple
>  speeds from 2x -> 16x in both directions. I would like to see that in
>  Freevo (I understand this may well depend on xine / mplayer, but it still
>  something I would like to see).
>
>  Other PVR function includes things like On Screen Display of current
>  channel while watching TV, moving through channels on screen with now/next
>  appearing at the bottom of the screen to pick another channel without
>  having to stop viewing the program you are watching. And of course the
>  infamous "red button" functionality for DVB.
Having never had these features I never missed them, but they do sound
pretty useful.


>  >>  Missing from the list is a more consistent control system with less
>  >> unique
>  >>  commands. Having a separate key for stop and back seems silly, and
>  >> again
>  > Not seeing what the problem with seperate buttons for Stop and back.
>  > Makes a lot sense to me, different functions different buttons. What
>  > exactly are you seeing as a problem?
>
>  Having different buttons for back and stop is a waste of time and confuses
>  end users. Why do you need 2 buttons, they have the same function. Back
>  goes back up menu items, back when playing media stops playing and moves
>  back to the menu, why do you need to have "stop"?
>
>  Why is there enter and select as different buttons, why are they used
>  inconsistently? Sometimes select shows a sub menu, sometimes (TV guide) it
>  shows the full description of the program and you have to press a
>  different key to get the sub menu. Then on top of that there is a Play
>  button which has a 3rd meaning, do we really need that many buttons? I
>  could see the argument for 2, but 3? So far I have been unable to get what
>  I would consider a sensible and easy to use key configuration without
>  going in and changing the freevo plug-ins for things like TV.
Agreeded.  Alot more predictabilty in how the buttons work would be a
good thing. It would also allow for both small remotes to handle the
core features and a fancier remote to beable to handle both core and
"fany" features.


>  Minimising controls, or at least supporting simpler controls, will make
>  freevo much easier to use. As it stands when my mother in law comes to
>  visit she cannot really use the TV because the control system is too
>  complicated to explain. That is my target audience for my control
>  comments. An aim to allow full functionality for the mac remote would be a
>  good target. That has 6 buttons:
>
>  
> http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/51/3025041174545801/www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/302504/302504_2.jpg
>
>  effectively:
>
>  up
>  down
>  left
>  right
>  play/pause
>  menu
Alright that really is a small button choice. I understand what your
looking at now. Again, I have never really used anything but software
PVR's like Freevo.


>  I would be very interested in how you have this setup just using the
>  freevo local config and lirc config. If it is simply a case of documenting
>  this properly then I would love to see some updates on the wiki that would
>  help.
>  >
I'll see If I still have by config files around. It worked pretty
well. THough Ithink I may have edit the events.py to get it all
working.

Evan

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