Glen wrote No. I think the bulk of non-zero sum gains are a result of co-evolution of competing scrutiny, the exploitation of niches the players stumbled upon together. I.e. they're really zero-sum games where the externalities aren't recognized by the players. And in that sense, if it is trust that prevents them from recognizing the externalities, then trust is tantamount to ignorance.
Nick responds: WOW! DARK! Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ep ropella Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 12:12 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] where is the real threat? On 06/26/2015 04:36 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > CBS or Comcast cover that, but also the evening news. In various situations such conglomerates may find it in their interest to present information in ways that benefit their bottom line, even to audiences that are above the least common denominator. Even if their news programs are credible and honest most of the time, it's exceptional times where their reputation can be monetized. These situations could plausibly impact people as much as propaganda. Another good point that argues to the same conclusion, because anyone who succumbs to flipping the trust bit opens themselves up to that sort of creeping exploitation. That slow, imperceptible programming probably has _way_ more impact than the relatively episodic nature of propaganda. On 06/27/2015 06:50 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:> Glen, > Don't the bulk of non-zero sum gains arise from trust? > see MOTH, for instance. No. I think the bulk of non-zero sum gains are a result of co-evolution of competing scrutiny, the exploitation of niches the players stumbled upon together. I.e. they're really zero-sum games where the externalities aren't recognized by the players. And in that sense, if it is trust that prevents them from recognizing the externalities, then trust is tantamount to ignorance. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
