On 4/26/17 10:00 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
Could we get back to Tom's OP? I for one am a "no" vote for exactly
Tom's reasons.
I can't help you with the vote. While I'm a county resident, I am not a
city resident for just such reasons. If I did have a dog in this
particular fight, I would tend to support the "no" vote for roughly
Tom's reasons as well. But then I tend toward voting "no" against most
new legislation and wish I could vote "no" against a lot of old
legislation as well.
My former-libertarian self shudders every time someone tries to
"legislate morality" or "health" or "good clean living"... but my
socially progressive self wishes for a culture/group/society/community
that isn't addicted to high-fructose corn-syrup based artificially
flavored and colored sugary drinks sometimes right from the bottle (I'm
sure you have seen parent fill a baby bottle with soda? I have.)
I also don't believe in "two wrongs make a right", though I have seen
two problems put together in such a way that they seem to constitute a
solution! I see the appeal for the sugar tax to fund preK
education. It feels vaguely like such a situation.
Back to the Bent end of the Thread:
On 4/25/17 4:51 PM, glen ☣ wrote:
I think one of the useful arguments in this vein is the one often lobbed against the concept of a
free market. There is no such thing; and there will/can never be such a thing. So, your question
seems to assume there is a "true" economy by comparison to the "false"
economies (or an upside right one vs an upside down one). What makes you _believe_ ... where lies
your faith in true or upside right economies? Maybe your Utopian homunculus has broken free of its
chains?
This is, I think, different from the "best of all possible world"... It's more
like a rejection of a stable landscape. There are no optima ... or perhaps all optima
are local (in time, space, and sub-graph)?
I agree that my whole thesis includes the assumption/questioning of what
means "free market" or "true economy". At best, these would seem to be
platonic ideals. I also agree (if I parse you correctly) that my
maunderings about right-side-up and up-side-down economies are built on
top of Value Sysems which in the extreme lead to Utopian/Dystopian idealism.
I'm interested in discussing more about the stable landscape and local
optima apprehension of the problem. If you have read this far into my
post (you may be the only one Glen), then maybe you could give an
example of the Sugar Tax in this language?
- Steve
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