I have been thinking about Mumford as well.  Here are some of his quotes.

http://www.memorablequotations.com/mumford.htm

"Every new baby is a blind desperate vote for survival: people who find
themselves unable to register an effective political protest against
extermination do so by a biological act. 

The chief function of the city is to convert power into form, energy into
culture, dead matter into the living symbols of art, biological reproduction
into social creativity. 

We have created an industrial order geared to automatism, where
feeble-mindedness, native or acquired, is necessary for docile productivity
in the factory; and where a pervasive neurosis is the final gift of the
meaningless life that issues forth at the other end. 

The settlement of America had its origins in the unsettlement of Europe.
America came into existence when the European was already so distant from
the ancient ideas and ways of his birthplace that the whole span of the
Atlantic did not widen the gulf. 

Sport in the sense of a mass-spectacle, with death to add to the underlying
excitement, comes into existence when a population has been drilled and
regimented and depressed to such an extent that it needs at least a
vicarious participation in difficult feats of strength or skill or heroism
in order to sustain its waning life-sense. 

However far modern science and technics have fallen short of their inherent
possibilities, they have taught mankind at least one lesson: Nothing is
impossible. 

By his very success in inventing labor-saving devices, modern man has
manufactured an abyss of boredom that only the privileged classes in earlier
civilizations have ever fathomed. 

War is the supreme drama of a completely mechanized society. "


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Subject: Re: [Futurework] There ain't no hydrogen


> Gee, isn't it easier to try to break or drastically reduce our addiction
to
> fossil fuels??
> 
> arthur

More to the ultimate point, we ought to try to break or
drastically reduce our addiction to ENERGY altogether!!! 

I like Lovins's approach, which I take to be: what energy
you do need, obtain in the most sensible (cheapest, least
damaging, etc.) way and engage seriously in a *political*
exercise about what you/we actually *need*; that is, get
involved in a discussion about needs and wants and be sure
to include what sorts of social arrangements seem the best. 

In other words, AL would very much endorse the wide-ranging
discussion that goes on here at FW, from nuts & bolts to
visionary politics & "philosophy". 

I am suddenly reminded of the wonderful discussion about
energy & civilization which occurs in the last chapter of
Lewis Mumford's *classic* TECHNICS AND CIVILIZATION. The
book is still in print and still widely used, I think. I
wonder if any of it has been excerpted and can be found
on-line. 

best wishes,

Stephen Straker 
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Vancouver, B.C.   
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