At 11:22 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
On 12/9/05, macnifico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It is permisible to sell a computer with the OS only. The rules do not specify that the OS should be the original one for the computer.

Where did you find that ? The original OS is a license issue, not an
ebay issue. If the OS license is not being sold it is a copyright
violation.

Pardon?

All Macs are licensed for their original OS. Period. You cannot sell them without the license going with it.

Most PCs are licensed for their original copy of Windows. Likewise, you cannot sell them without the license going with it.

IOW, there is no concept of "not being sold with" for that original license.

All of this is irrelevant anyway because you can put a Mac G3 or g4 on
eBay any day of the week loaded with OS X Panther or Tiger, Adobe,
Quark, etc..... with no disks and it will not be cancelled.

Not true. Adobe and MS (to take two examples I've been hit with) have both hired copyright police companies to watch eBay. If you offer computers containing their products and no media & license, there is a good chance the auctions will be canceled. And if you do it repeatedly, besides eBay suspension, you'll get a nice registered letter from the copyright holder's lawyers. :\

I see it all the time and have filed complaints when they use the apps
as a selling point. Not one auction has been closed due to my
complaints.

As appropriate. It's not your copyright, therefore you have no legal standing to interfere with the auction. IOW, when you see an infringing auction, it's nice to report it to eBay - but you really need to report it to the copyright owner or their legal agent if you expect any action to be taken.

See eBay's help area for information on their Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) program. aka the copyright police authorization rules.

- Dan.

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