So what are the best drives and cards for scsi? Am I able to find larger drives 
in scsi? Seems as though, looking at the Mac swap list that,sadly, that a used 
option would be as expensive as a new one? Ne deals ne one?

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On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:45 AM, "David W. Morris" <bbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that the advantage of using SCSI drives is not only in the transfer 
> speed, which as you say is equal to one of your newer IDE drives, but IDE 
> uses more CPU DMA to run than using SCSI which frees the CPU up from managing 
> the data transfer.  I don't know all the details as I am not a technical guy 
> (not too much anyway), but when faced with limited CPU power, SCSI drives 
> will always be better than IDE from what I have read in the past.
> 
> This will speed up your G4 PowerMac, as it will have more CPU resources to 
> work on other tasks, instead of using a chunk of it's power to transfer data 
> over the IDE bus.
> 
> I have several ATTO fibre optic controller cards pulled from Avid Meridian 
> audio/video editing MDD G4 systems, if anyone is interested in getting one.  
> I think the max transfer speed for them is faster than your 80MB/s, but then 
> you need a hard drive or adapter that converts drives to fibre optic, which I 
> am unfamiliar with, as the editing systems did not come with the storage 
> drives that the fibre optic cards connected to.
> 
> Not sure how you are going to test the speed improvement you can get from 
> using SCSI drives instead of IDE, when both drives are transferring data at 
> the same speed, but as I said above, your G4(s) should have much more 
> resources available when using SCSI than IDE.
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Bruce Godfrey wrote:
> 
>> dc, do you have any data on how much difference a fast SCSI drive makes in a 
>> MDD or similar G$ Mac?  I just installed one and I have used Disk Speed 
>> Bench X to test the transfer speed.  I find 80MB/sec.  My original IDE 
>> Hitachi Deskstar on the ATA100 bus is only moving about 50MB/sec.  However, 
>> another WD drive on the same ATA 100 bus is also moving 80MB/sec.
>> I was hoping the 15K U320 SCSI drive would easily beat a good IDE drive, but 
>> that does not appear to be the case.  Is it maybe the kind of test Disk 
>> Speed Bench X performs?
>> 
>> Another related point - AFAIK the fastest SCSI card made for a PCI slot is 
>> U160.  The U320 cards are all PCI-X or later.  Those work in a PCI slot, but 
>> only at 33MHz and 32 bits.  The PCI SCSI cards, at least the ones from ATTO 
>> Tech, actually use the 64 bit wide PCI bus in old Macs.  Maybe the only PCI 
>> cards made that do.
>> 
>> Bruce
> 
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