On 09/04/2021 20:02, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:01 AM
>> From: "David Brown" <david.br...@hesbynett.no>

>>
>> Different opinions are fine.  Bringing national or international
>> politics into the discussion (presumably meant to be as an insult) is
>> not fine.  This is not a political discussion - please stop trying to
>> make it one.
> 
> It is an assessment of what you propose.  The removal of people from all
> positions is a political statements.  I have no problem with political
> discussions and certainly don't take instructions from you, to say the 
> least!  What you talk about is exactly what drives Chinese and Russian
> officials to suppress anybody who does not conform with their demands.    
> The consequences will be the same should you and others get your way
> of doing things.

There is a big difference between suppression or censorship, and wanting
people in leadership positions to be representative of the values of the
group they lead.  RMS can have all the opinions he wants, and act has he
will (until he ends up arrested for it), but if he is to remain a
representative for others (FSF, GNU and/or GCC), then he has a duty to
act appropriately according to the values those organisations think are
important.

I think that you mix up freedom and free reins.  Freedom is not anarchy.
 Being free from sexism, prejudice, bullying, and harassment are as
important as freedom of speech or politics.

>>
>> We (the free software world) does not need a person with the qualities
>> of RMS any more - that is the point.  There should not be such a
>> position as "Chief GNUsance".
>  
> Secondly,  I cannot clearly see what status you have for making statements
> that imply a representation for the free software world!!!
> 

I have said very clearly that I am a user of gcc - not a developer, and
the opinions I express are very much my own.  The does not hinder me
from saying what I think the free software world (developers and users)
want or need.  I have not made any claims or suggestions that I am privy
to the minds of others, or that my opinions and ideas are in any way
more weighty than those of others.

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