Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks to go "live
amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that that the founder's
authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect.
Just a thought,
-Alex
On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Very well said.
I am optimistic.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a good discussion to have had before entering the incubator, and
> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can demonstrate
> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and allow the
> project to move forward without the founder's undue influence.
> >
> > Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on the project,
> but in a different role.
>
> I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved with this
> discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my intention to
> divest myself of total authority over the project just as stated in the
> Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the initial
> formation of the project as much as possible, in partial fulfillment of
> Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on all decisions
> before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong opinion
> about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, however.
>
> I will be available as needed for information needed by the others to
> accomplish this transition but for the most part, just consider me as on
> vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay out of the
> way as much as possible.
>
> I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in this.
> Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. Yes, the
> project is very dear to me and the result of many years of blood, sweat,
> and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long hours.
> Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my past role
> because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did everything. I
> still do.
>
> There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload has gotten
> to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around 60-100 changes
> per week and really have no personal life left. It is more than I can
> do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to solve that
> is to open the project up to others working as equals. The second, and
> more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years old now.
> I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control this project
> long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I really need
> to detach and let the project take a life of its own that does not
> depend on me in any way.
>
> I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, but rather
> the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I am prepared
> for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. But I have
> come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a clean
> knife-edge hand-off.
>
> Greg
>
>
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