Hi Junping, I'd like to volunteer.
-Flavio > On 3 Dec 2019, at 11:19, 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > > Got it. Thanks for updating, Ted. > Any other volunteers? > > Thanks, > > Junping > > Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> 于2019年12月3日周二 下午6:15写道： > >> Jumping, >> >> It would be great to help more with nuttx, but my board membership and a >> new day job would make me much less than a good mentor. >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 1:56 AM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Sounds like most of concerns are addressed through the discussion. >>> Just like Justin said, we will call the vote once one or two mentor get >>> volunteer here. >>> Ted and Dave, why not watch how project is going as mentor and make sure >> it >>> follow Apache way if you got time and interest for the project.:) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Junping >>> >>> Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>于2019年12月3日 周二上午8:43写道： >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> As soon as an additional mentors or two are identified I would call >> for a >>>> vote. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 10:39 Greg Stein, <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems >>>>> on-board. Let them get their stuff done. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks >> to >>> go >>>>>> "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that >>> that >>>>> the >>>>>> founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL >> effect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a thought, >>>>>> -Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Very well said. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am optimistic. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt < >> spudan...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is a good discussion to have had before entering the >>>>>> incubator, and >>>>>>> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can >>>>>> demonstrate >>>>>>> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and >>>> allow >>>>>> the >>>>>>> project to move forward without the founder's undue >> influence. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on >>> the >>>>>> project, >>>>>>> but in a different role. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved >> with >>>> this >>>>>>> discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my >>>>>> intention to >>>>>>> divest myself of total authority over the project just as >>> stated >>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the >>> initial >>>>>>> formation of the project as much as possible, in partial >>>>> fulfillment >>>>>> of >>>>>>> Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on >> all >>>>>> decisions >>>>>>> before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong >>>>> opinion >>>>>>> about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, >>>>>> however. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will be available as needed for information needed by the >>>> others >>>>> to >>>>>>> accomplish this transition but for the most part, just >> consider >>>> me >>>>>> as on >>>>>>> vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay >> out >>> of >>>>> the >>>>>>> way as much as possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in >>>> this. >>>>>>> Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. >>>> Yes, >>>>>> the >>>>>>> project is very dear to me and the result of many years of >>> blood, >>>>>> sweat, >>>>>>> and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long >>>> hours. >>>>>>> Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my >> past >>>> role >>>>>>> because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did >>>> everything. I >>>>>>> still do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload >> has >>>>>> gotten >>>>>>> to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around >> 60-100 >>>>>> changes >>>>>>> per week and really have no personal life left. It is more >>> than >>>> I >>>>>> can >>>>>>> do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to >>>> solve >>>>>> that >>>>>>> is to open the project up to others working as equals. The >>>> second, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years >>> old >>>>>> now. >>>>>>> I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control >> this >>>>>> project >>>>>>> long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I >>>> really >>>>>> need >>>>>>> to detach and let the project take a life of its own that >> does >>>> not >>>>>>> depend on me in any way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, >> but >>>>>> rather >>>>>>> the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I >> am >>>>>> prepared >>>>>>> for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. >>> But I >>>>>> have >>>>>>> come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a >>> clean >>>>>>> knife-edge hand-off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
