Hi Flavio, Thanks for volunteering! I am adding you as the mentor of the project.
Thanks, Junping Flavio Junqueira <f...@apache.org> 于2019年12月3日周二 下午6:28写道: > Hi Junping, > > I'd like to volunteer. > > -Flavio > > > On 3 Dec 2019, at 11:19, 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Got it. Thanks for updating, Ted. > > Any other volunteers? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Junping > > > > Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> 于2019年12月3日周二 下午6:15写道: > > > >> Jumping, > >> > >> It would be great to help more with nuttx, but my board membership and a > >> new day job would make me much less than a good mentor. > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 1:56 AM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds like most of concerns are addressed through the discussion. > >>> Just like Justin said, we will call the vote once one or two mentor get > >>> volunteer here. > >>> Ted and Dave, why not watch how project is going as mentor and make > sure > >> it > >>> follow Apache way if you got time and interest for the project.:) > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Junping > >>> > >>> Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>于2019年12月3日 周二上午8:43写道: > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> As soon as an additional mentors or two are identified I would call > >> for a > >>>> vote. > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Justin > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 10:39 Greg Stein, <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems > >>>>> on-board. Let them get their stuff done. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks > >> to > >>> go > >>>>>> "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that > >>> that > >>>>> the > >>>>>> founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL > >> effect. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just a thought, > >>>>>> -Alex > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Very well said. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am optimistic. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt < > >> spudan...@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is a good discussion to have had before entering the > >>>>>> incubator, and > >>>>>>> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can > >>>>>> demonstrate > >>>>>>> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and > >>>> allow > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> project to move forward without the founder's undue > >> influence. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on > >>> the > >>>>>> project, > >>>>>>> but in a different role. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved > >> with > >>>> this > >>>>>>> discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my > >>>>>> intention to > >>>>>>> divest myself of total authority over the project just as > >>> stated > >>>> in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the > >>> initial > >>>>>>> formation of the project as much as possible, in partial > >>>>> fulfillment > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>> Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on > >> all > >>>>>> decisions > >>>>>>> before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong > >>>>> opinion > >>>>>>> about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, > >>>>>> however. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I will be available as needed for information needed by the > >>>> others > >>>>> to > >>>>>>> accomplish this transition but for the most part, just > >> consider > >>>> me > >>>>>> as on > >>>>>>> vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay > >> out > >>> of > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> way as much as possible. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in > >>>> this. > >>>>>>> Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. > >>>> Yes, > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> project is very dear to me and the result of many years of > >>> blood, > >>>>>> sweat, > >>>>>>> and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long > >>>> hours. > >>>>>>> Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my > >> past > >>>> role > >>>>>>> because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did > >>>> everything. I > >>>>>>> still do. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload > >> has > >>>>>> gotten > >>>>>>> to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around > >> 60-100 > >>>>>> changes > >>>>>>> per week and really have no personal life left. It is more > >>> than > >>>> I > >>>>>> can > >>>>>>> do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to > >>>> solve > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>> is to open the project up to others working as equals. The > >>>> second, > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>> more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years > >>> old > >>>>>> now. > >>>>>>> I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control > >> this > >>>>>> project > >>>>>>> long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I > >>>> really > >>>>>> need > >>>>>>> to detach and let the project take a life of its own that > >> does > >>>> not > >>>>>>> depend on me in any way. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, > >> but > >>>>>> rather > >>>>>>> the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I > >> am > >>>>>> prepared > >>>>>>> for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. > >>> But I > >>>>>> have > >>>>>>> come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a > >>> clean > >>>>>>> knife-edge hand-off. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Greg > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >