I see. Thanks Dave for update. Thanks,
Junping Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net> 于2019年12月3日周二 下午2:05写道： > Hi Junping, > > I’m currently mentoring five podlings which is probably two more than I > should since I’ve joined the board. > > Also, I’m interested in the OSSBot project... > > Good luck with NuttX! > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 2, 2019, at 4:57 PM, 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Sounds like most of concerns are addressed through the discussion. > > Just like Justin said, we will call the vote once one or two mentor get > > volunteer here. > > Ted and Dave, why not watch how project is going as mentor and make sure > it > > follow Apache way if you got time and interest for the project.:) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Junping > > > > Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>于2019年12月3日 周二上午8:43写道： > > > >> Hi, > >> As soon as an additional mentors or two are identified I would call for > a > >> vote. > >> Thanks, > >> Justin > >> > >>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 10:39 Greg Stein, <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems > >>> on-board. Let them get their stuff done. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks to > go > >>>> "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that that > >>> the > >>>> founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect. > >>>> > >>>> Just a thought, > >>>> -Alex > >>>> > >>>> On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Very well said. > >>>> > >>>> I am optimistic. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> This is a good discussion to have had before entering the > >>>> incubator, and > >>>>> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can > >>>> demonstrate > >>>>> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and > >> allow > >>>> the > >>>>> project to move forward without the founder's undue influence. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on the > >>>> project, > >>>>> but in a different role. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved with > >> this > >>>>> discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my > >>>> intention to > >>>>> divest myself of total authority over the project just as stated > >> in > >>>> the > >>>>> Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the initial > >>>>> formation of the project as much as possible, in partial > >>> fulfillment > >>>> of > >>>>> Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on all > >>>> decisions > >>>>> before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong > >>> opinion > >>>>> about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, > >>>> however. > >>>>> > >>>>> I will be available as needed for information needed by the > >> others > >>> to > >>>>> accomplish this transition but for the most part, just consider > >> me > >>>> as on > >>>>> vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay out of > >>> the > >>>>> way as much as possible. > >>>>> > >>>>> I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in > >> this. > >>>>> Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. > >> Yes, > >>>> the > >>>>> project is very dear to me and the result of many years of blood, > >>>> sweat, > >>>>> and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long > >> hours. > >>>>> Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my past > >> role > >>>>> because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did > >> everything. I > >>>>> still do. > >>>>> > >>>>> There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload has > >>>> gotten > >>>>> to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around 60-100 > >>>> changes > >>>>> per week and really have no personal life left. It is more than > >> I > >>>> can > >>>>> do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to > >> solve > >>>> that > >>>>> is to open the project up to others working as equals. The > >> second, > >>>> and > >>>>> more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years old > >>>> now. > >>>>> I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control this > >>>> project > >>>>> long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I > >> really > >>>> need > >>>>> to detach and let the project take a life of its own that does > >> not > >>>>> depend on me in any way. > >>>>> > >>>>> I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, but > >>>> rather > >>>>> the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I am > >>>> prepared > >>>>> for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. But I > >>>> have > >>>>> come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a clean > >>>>> knife-edge hand-off. > >>>>> > >>>>> Greg > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
