I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems on-board. Let them get their stuff done.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote: > Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks to go > "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that that the > founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect. > > Just a thought, > -Alex > > On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Very well said. > > I am optimistic. > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > This is a good discussion to have had before entering the > incubator, and > > I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can > demonstrate > > during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and allow > the > > project to move forward without the founder's undue influence. > > > > > > Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on the > project, > > but in a different role. > > > > I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved with this > > discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my > intention to > > divest myself of total authority over the project just as stated in > the > > Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the initial > > formation of the project as much as possible, in partial fulfillment > of > > Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on all > decisions > > before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong opinion > > about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, > however. > > > > I will be available as needed for information needed by the others to > > accomplish this transition but for the most part, just consider me > as on > > vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay out of the > > way as much as possible. > > > > I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in this. > > Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. Yes, > the > > project is very dear to me and the result of many years of blood, > sweat, > > and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long hours. > > Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my past role > > because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did everything. I > > still do. > > > > There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload has > gotten > > to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around 60-100 > changes > > per week and really have no personal life left. It is more than I > can > > do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to solve > that > > is to open the project up to others working as equals. The second, > and > > more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years old > now. > > I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control this > project > > long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I really > need > > to detach and let the project take a life of its own that does not > > depend on me in any way. > > > > I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, but > rather > > the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I am > prepared > > for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. But I > have > > come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a clean > > knife-edge hand-off. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > >
