On śro, 2017-05-24 at 11:54 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 05:51:00AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote > > > What value would be obtained by posting this stuff for user comment? > > I'd also note that only one of those was posted on -dev-announce for > > comment as far as I'm aware. Two are package/project-level changes > > which typically don't get wide discussion. > > I was using the Firefox PulseAudio event as another example of stuff > that happens in some obscure location that ordinary users don't know > about. It was https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056 > YES!!! It was done as a bug in the Firefox bugzilla. How many regular > users religiously follow that? > > There were some people who "upgraded" Firefox one day, and discovered > that sound no longer worked on it. It was done with so little > communication that several Firefox maintainers for various linux distros > (i.e. not exactly ordinary users) were unaware that they should set > PulseAudio as a hard dependancy for Firefox. > > An item I just remembered was the switchover from "/dev/hda" to > "/dev/sda". One day I upgraded (the kernel?), and got a panic at the > next bootup. Fortunately, I have a "Production" and an "Experimental" > kernel in my LILO menu, so I was able to reboot, and fall back to the > previous kernel. A new kernel always goes into "Experimental". I > "promote" the Experimental kernel to Production after it has run without > problems for a couple of weeks. > > Another one was when font packages stopped generating ISO8859-1 fonts > if you didn't add the "nls" USE flag. No news item. Xfreecell stopped > working because it couldn't find the font. > > The point I'm trying to make is that these kind of surprises should > not happen, be they OS-level or application-level. Regular users should > not have to follow this list. Even if you're not going to alter course > regardless of feedback, at least let users know so they're not caught > unawares. If nothing else, post news items to Gentoo-user ***AHEAD OF > TIME*** warning about changes like these. >
...and all of this is completely irrelevant to the topic. This kind of information belongs in the news items, and for a few years now that's where you are expected to find them. -- Best regards, Michał Górny
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