Thank you very much Tino. For years my Aunt who was in Liceu was insulted by the mestico boys. They said, ' bonita esta caneca' because she was beautiful. She never knew the meaning. In fact no one did. This is brilliant and fits in. Thank you very much.
On Wed, 5 Jun, 2024, 8:30 pm Tino de Sa, <tinod...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that 'caneco' arose from the fact that Goan Catholics, in spite of > having adopted Portuguese ways in many respects, chose to ignore the use of > toilet paper and preferred to use mugs of water to clean themselves. > The Portuguese found this amusing - people wearing western clothes, > speaking Portuguese, culturally Portuguese in many ways - but using mugs of > water after they defecated. > Hence the derogatory nickname. > Tino > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 1:08 AM Frederick Noronha < > fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just a reminder on what the earlier discussion on this issue said (in >> case anyone is interested). Via Goanet: >> >> >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094786.html> >> *Carvalho* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094801.html> >> *Gabriel de Figueiredo* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094805.html> >> *Carvalho* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094808.html> >> *Antonio Menezes* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094857.html> >> *Alfred de Tavares* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094871.html> >> *Roland Francis* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094966.html> >> *Alfred de Tavares* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094916.html> >> *Victor Rangel-Ribeiro* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094814.html> >> *Carvalho* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094825.html> >> *Gabriel de Figueiredo* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094840.html> >> *Santosh Helekar* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094833.html> >> *Gilbert Lawrence* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094859.html> >> *Carvalho* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094868.html> >> *Gilbert Lawrence* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094884.html> >> *Monica Reis* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094891.html> >> *Bernado Colaco* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094898.html> >> *Carvalho* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094929.html> >> *Gabe Menezes* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094930.html> >> *Venantius Pinto* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094949.html> >> *Gilbert Lawrence* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094964.html> >> *Mario Goveia* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094973.html> >> *Gabe Menezes* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/094977.html> >> *Con Menezes* >> - [Goanet] Canecos and other racial slurs >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/095011.html> >> *Carvalho* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/095022.html> >> *Antonio Menezes* >> - [Goanet] Canecos >> >> <http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/095226.html> >> *Victor Rangel-Ribeiro* >> >> >> >> >> >> [Goanet-News] Goanet highlights: Who or what is a caneco? (Selma Carvalho) >> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet-n...@lists.goanet.org&q=subject:%22%5C%5BGoanet%5C-News%5C%5D+Goanet+highlights%5C%3A+Who+or+what+is+a+caneco%5C%3F+%5C%28Selma%09Carvalho%5C%29%22&o=newest> >> >> Goanet News >> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet-n...@lists.goanet.org&q=from:%22Goanet+News%22> >> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:11:54 -0700 >> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet-n...@lists.goanet.org&q=date:20090719> >> >> Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho >> >> One of the interesting discussion on Goanet has been about the word >> “canecos”. The Portuguese used this word, often as a racial slur, for >> Catholic Goans but opinions were divided as to its actual meaning. >> Here are some of the more interesting viewpoints shared by Goanet >> members. >> >> Gabriel de >> Figueiredo:http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179875.html >> >> Bernado >> Colaco:http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179941.html >> >> Monica Reis of the Indo-Portuguese Art Research >> Project:http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179934.html >> >> Con >> Menezes:http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180027.html >> >> Although a consensus was not reached on its actual meaning, there is a >> strong possibility that it is a corruption of the word “canarims,” the >> old Portuguese word for people of the Konkan coast. The fact that in >> Africa, only Catholic Goans were called “canecos” and not the >> Africans, leads credence to this theory. >> >> >> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 00:08, 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net < >> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear members, >>> >>> I have for many years been trying to find out the exact meaning of this >>> slur that was used for Goans by the Portuguese 'caneco.' About a decade ago >>> we had an interesting discussion on Goanet about this but nothing >>> conclusive was arrived at. The word itself means mug, but how and why was >>> it used as a slur. >>> >>> Any imput appreciated. >>> Thank you, >>> selma >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/264764771.921553.1717512033254%40mail.yahoo.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/264764771.921553.1717512033254%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAMCR53%2BW_ffQ4Ha-wTU-tgg2WzNdjHNJ6111o-C0KPJembgaig%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAMCR53%2BW_ffQ4Ha-wTU-tgg2WzNdjHNJ6111o-C0KPJembgaig%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > *Dr. Anthony de Sa, IAS (Retd), PhD**, FRICS, MPA (Harvard)* > *Former Chief Secretary of Madhya Pradesh,* > *Former Chairman, MP Real Estate Regulatory Authority (RERA)* > *Mobile (WhatsApp): +91-9810981818* > *e-mail: anthonydesa....@gmail.com <anthonydesa....@gmail.com>* > > * tinod...@gmail.com <tinod...@gmail.com>* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAPf%3Drht%3DwiTsvNAedchsX_7qw4woCAjC0ibWGLAHb2KVoj8iQw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAPf%3Drht%3DwiTsvNAedchsX_7qw4woCAjC0ibWGLAHb2KVoj8iQw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. 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