Dear Sonia, I was growing up in Goa in those days, and do not agree that the term 'caneco' was used by the Portuguese to identify a class of people who washed their posteriors after defecating; it was just a racist slur. The mixed race mestizo boys were as racist in Portuguese-held Goa as the Anglo-Indians were in "British India". Attitudes changed after Independence, but they changed very very slowly. Warmest regards,Victor On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 12:56:23 PM EDT, Sonia Gomes <rgso...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you very much Tino. For years my Aunt who was in Liceu was insulted by the mestico boys. They said, ' bonita esta caneca' because she was beautiful. She never knew the meaning. In fact no one did. This is brilliant and fits in. Thank you very much. On Wed, 5 Jun, 2024, 8:30 pm Tino de Sa, <tinod...@gmail.com> wrote: I think that 'caneco' arose from the fact that Goan Catholics, in spite of having adopted Portuguese ways in many respects, chose to ignore the use of toilet paper and preferred to use mugs of water to clean themselves. The Portuguese found this amusing - people wearing western clothes, speaking Portuguese, culturally Portuguese in many ways - but using mugs of water after they defecated.Hence the derogatory nickname.Tino On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 1:08 AM Frederick Noronha <fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote: Just a reminder on what the earlier discussion on this issue said (in case anyone is interested). Via Goanet: - [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho - [Goanet] Canecos Gabriel de Figueiredo - [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho - [Goanet] Canecos Antonio Menezes - [Goanet] Canecos Alfred de Tavares - [Goanet] Canecos Roland Francis - [Goanet] Canecos Alfred de Tavares - [Goanet] Canecos Victor Rangel-Ribeiro - [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho - [Goanet] Canecos Gabriel de Figueiredo - [Goanet] Canecos Santosh Helekar - [Goanet] Canecos Gilbert Lawrence - [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho - [Goanet] Canecos Gilbert Lawrence - [Goanet] Canecos Monica Reis - [Goanet] Canecos Bernado Colaco - [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho - [Goanet] Canecos Gabe Menezes - [Goanet] Canecos Venantius Pinto - [Goanet] Canecos Gilbert Lawrence - [Goanet] Canecos Mario Goveia - [Goanet] Canecos Gabe Menezes - [Goanet] Canecos Con Menezes - [Goanet] Canecos and other racial slurs Carvalho - [Goanet] Canecos Antonio Menezes - [Goanet] Canecos Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [Goanet-News] Goanet highlights: Who or what is a caneco? (Selma Carvalho) Goanet News Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:11:54 -0700 Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho One of the interesting discussion on Goanet has been about the word “canecos”. The Portuguese used this word, often as a racial slur, for Catholic Goans but opinions were divided as to its actual meaning. Here are some of the more interesting viewpoints shared by Goanet members.Gabriel de Figueiredo: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179875.html Bernado Colaco: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179941.html Monica Reis of the Indo-Portuguese Art Research Project: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179934.html Con Menezes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180027.html Although a consensus was not reached on its actual meaning, there is a strong possibility that it is a corruption of the word “canarims,” the old Portuguese word for people of the Konkan coast. The fact that in Africa, only Catholic Goans were called “canecos” and not the Africans, leads credence to this theory. On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 00:08, 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> wrote: Dear members, I have for many years been trying to find out the exact meaning of this slur that was used for Goans by the Portuguese 'caneco.' About a decade ago we had an interesting discussion on Goanet about this but nothing conclusive was arrived at. The word itself means mug, but how and why was it used as a slur. Any imput appreciated.Thank you,selma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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