This is a very interesting discussion. I would like to see some input from Google.
On Jul 15, 10:20 am, richard emberson <richard.ember...@gmail.com> wrote: > I understand that BigTable is behind GAE, but my concern is > more with GAE performance and quotas. If GAE had existed > when Larry and Sergey were developing their pagerack > algorithm, would they have used GEA for evaluation? > I have my doubts. They would quickly reach quota limits, > way before they knew if they had a viable idea. > > Richard > > > > Tony wrote: > > Though I realize this is not exactly what you're asking, the concept > > of GAE is that it exposes some of the infrastructure that all Google > > applications rely on (i.e. Datastore) for others to use. So, in a > > sense, Google's various applications were using App Engine before App > > Engine existed. As far as I know, every Google service runs on the > > same homogeneous infrastructure, which is part of what makes it so > > reliable (and why the only available languages are Python and Java, > > languages used internally at Google). > > > But I don't work there, so maybe I'm completely off-base. > > > On Jul 15, 12:53 pm, richard emberson <richard.ember...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Eating one's own dog > >> foodhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one's_own_dog_food > >> or in this case: > >> Using one's own cloud. > > >> Amazon' cloud is based upon the IT technology they use > >> within Amazon. > >> Salesforce.com's Force.com offering is what they used to > >> build their CRM system. > > >> These cloud vendors "Eat their own dog food". > > >> If a cloud vendor does not use their cloud offering for > >> their other products and/or internal systems, one > >> would have to assume that the cloud is viewed as > >> a technology ghetto within their own corporation - good > >> enough for others but not for ourselves. > > >> So, concerning the Google App Engine, are other groups > >> within Google clamoring to port or build their offerings > >> on top of the App Engine? If so, please be specific, what > >> Google products and infrastructure and what are the schedules > >> for their hosting on GAE? > > >> Is the GAE group supporting the Google Docs group as they > >> move to use GAE? How about gmail, will the Google Gmail > >> group be relying on GAE support? I have not seen emails > >> from either of those internal Google groups on the GAE > >> mailing list. Lastly, when will Google search be supported > >> by the GAE group; > > >> Will those groups have to live under the same quota restrictions > >> while they evaluate using GAE? If not, why not? If they > >> are unreasonable for an internal evaluation, what makes them > >> reasonable for an external evaluation? > > >> Evaluating whether or not GAE should be used for a particular > >> application is not FREE even if one gets a very small slice > >> of GAE resources with which to do the evaluation. > >> Tens or hundreds of hours go into determine if GAE has > >> the right characteristics and quotas that limit how fast one > >> can work makes it worse. (Yes one can $$ for higher quotas, > >> but during the evaluation phase $$ is out of the question.) > > >> Richard Emberson > > >> -- > >> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > -- > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
