>                                                                               
>              If you need
> more, try to create multiple account, schedule roster among them, sync your
> data among them. This is the solutions. If terms and conditions of use of
> GAE allows, there will be open souce projects for GAE clustering.

I'm pretty sure that the GAE TOS forbid that "solution".


On Jul 16, 7:26 pm, Juguang XIAO <jugu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dogfooding, as wikipedia names it, is ideological, may not be practical.
> People, as well as company, lives practically for surviving first then
> chasing dreams.
>
> I have seen the positive movement from Google, did so much for developers.
> People may take it for granted, thinking the leader should do more. I am
> content with GAE, as it offers some free and exciting stuffs. I cannot ask
> Google to give more, unless he decided so. People can be happy when they are
> grateful.
>
> Technically speaking, I do not think Google offers its best to developers.
> It will be too costy to do so. Their mainstream businesses need to be
> maintained, and I guess each business unit has its own authority and freedom
> to do thing in their own way. Core businesses and technologies need to be
> protected. If you are not happy, go for Microsoft. ;-)
>
> I do not believe, people can run their serious business without serious pay.
> 6.5 hour per day CUP time is enough for casual applications. If you need
> more, try to create multiple account, schedule roster among them, sync your
> data among them. This is the solutions. If terms and conditions of use of
> GAE allows, there will be open souce projects for GAE clustering.
>
> Juguang
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM, GenghisOne <mdkach...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So it looks like there's an updated Google App Engine roadmap and
> > guess what...no mention of full-text search.
>
> > Doesn't that strike anyone as a bit odd? How can an emerging cloud
> > computing platform not effectively address full-text search? And
> > what's really odd is the absolute silence from Google...quite frankly,
> > I don't get it.
>
> > On Jul 16, 12:28 pm, Bryan <bj97...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This is a very interesting discussion.  I would like to see some input
> > > from Google.
>
> > > On Jul 15, 10:20 am, richard emberson <richard.ember...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > I understand that BigTable is behind GAE, but my concern is
> > > > more with GAE performance and quotas. If GAE had existed
> > > > when Larry and Sergey were developing their pagerack
> > > > algorithm, would they have used GEA for evaluation?
> > > > I have my doubts. They would quickly reach quota limits,
> > > > way before they knew if they had a viable idea.
>
> > > > Richard
>
> > > > Tony wrote:
> > > > > Though I realize this is not exactly what you're asking, the concept
> > > > > of GAE is that it exposes some of the infrastructure that all Google
> > > > > applications rely on (i.e. Datastore) for others to use.  So, in a
> > > > > sense, Google's various applications were using App Engine before App
> > > > > Engine existed.  As far as I know, every Google service runs on the
> > > > > same homogeneous infrastructure, which is part of what makes it so
> > > > > reliable (and why the only available languages are Python and Java,
> > > > > languages used internally at Google).
>
> > > > > But I don't work there, so maybe I'm completely off-base.
>
> > > > > On Jul 15, 12:53 pm, richard emberson <richard.ember...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> Eating one's own dog foodhttp://
> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one's_own_dog_food
> > > > >> or in this case:
> > > > >> Using one's own cloud.
>
> > > > >> Amazon' cloud is based upon the IT technology they use
> > > > >> within Amazon.
> > > > >> Salesforce.com's Force.com offering is what they used to
> > > > >> build their CRM system.
>
> > > > >> These cloud vendors "Eat their own dog food".
>
> > > > >> If a cloud vendor does not use their cloud offering for
> > > > >> their other products and/or internal systems, one
> > > > >> would have to assume that the cloud is viewed as
> > > > >> a technology ghetto within their own corporation - good
> > > > >> enough for others but not for ourselves.
>
> > > > >> So, concerning the Google App Engine, are other groups
> > > > >> within Google clamoring to port or build their offerings
> > > > >> on top of the App Engine? If so, please be specific, what
> > > > >> Google products and infrastructure and what are the schedules
> > > > >> for their hosting on GAE?
>
> > > > >> Is the GAE group supporting the Google Docs group as they
> > > > >> move to use GAE? How about gmail, will the Google Gmail
> > > > >> group be relying on GAE support? I have not seen emails
> > > > >> from either of those internal Google groups on the GAE
> > > > >> mailing list. Lastly, when will Google search be supported
> > > > >> by the GAE group;
>
> > > > >> Will those groups have to live under the same quota restrictions
> > > > >> while they evaluate using GAE?  If not, why not? If they
> > > > >> are unreasonable for an internal evaluation, what makes them
> > > > >> reasonable for an external evaluation?
>
> > > > >> Evaluating whether or not GAE should be used for a particular
> > > > >> application is not FREE even if one gets a very small slice
> > > > >> of GAE resources with which to do the evaluation.
> > > > >> Tens or hundreds of hours go into determine if GAE has
> > > > >> the right characteristics and quotas that limit how fast one
> > > > >> can work makes it worse. (Yes one can $$ for higher quotas,
> > > > >> but during the evaluation phase $$ is out of the question.)
>
> > > > >> Richard Emberson
>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
>
> > > > --
> > > > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
>
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