Hi there. I did not pay anything for any services, inc. gmail, google docs, gmaps, to Google.:-) She got big pays by someone else. For GAE as hosting provider, i agreed that for exceeding quota it may be more expensive than other providers. However, different people have different ways to calcuate the cost. As for me as an individual, I am not thinking to pay for it at this moment. :-p
Juguang On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM, GenghisOne <mdkach...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Juguang > > Your words provide a nice counter-balance to those who are not so > happy with App Engine. Yes, you are correct in reminding us all that > we should be grateful for something free. And yes App Engine has > likely provided a whole bunch of young, inquiring minds with an > amazing opportunity to tinker and learn on a global scale. > > But for some strange reason, I'm also reminded of that old > saying...you get what you pay for. > > > On Jul 16, 7:26 pm, Juguang XIAO <jugu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dogfooding, as wikipedia names it, is ideological, may not be practical. > > People, as well as company, lives practically for surviving first then > > chasing dreams. > > > > I have seen the positive movement from Google, did so much for > developers. > > People may take it for granted, thinking the leader should do more. I am > > content with GAE, as it offers some free and exciting stuffs. I cannot > ask > > Google to give more, unless he decided so. People can be happy when they > are > > grateful. > > > > Technically speaking, I do not think Google offers its best to > developers. > > It will be too costy to do so. Their mainstream businesses need to be > > maintained, and I guess each business unit has its own authority and > freedom > > to do thing in their own way. Core businesses and technologies need to be > > protected. If you are not happy, go for Microsoft. ;-) > > > > I do not believe, people can run their serious business without serious > pay. > > 6.5 hour per day CUP time is enough for casual applications. If you need > > more, try to create multiple account, schedule roster among them, sync > your > > data among them. This is the solutions. If terms and conditions of use of > > GAE allows, there will be open souce projects for GAE clustering. > > > > Juguang > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM, GenghisOne <mdkach...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > So it looks like there's an updated Google App Engine roadmap and > > > guess what...no mention of full-text search. > > > > > Doesn't that strike anyone as a bit odd? How can an emerging cloud > > > computing platform not effectively address full-text search? And > > > what's really odd is the absolute silence from Google...quite frankly, > > > I don't get it. > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:28 pm, Bryan <bj97...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This is a very interesting discussion. I would like to see some > input > > > > from Google. > > > > > > On Jul 15, 10:20 am, richard emberson <richard.ember...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I understand that BigTable is behind GAE, but my concern is > > > > > more with GAE performance and quotas. If GAE had existed > > > > > when Larry and Sergey were developing their pagerack > > > > > algorithm, would they have used GEA for evaluation? > > > > > I have my doubts. They would quickly reach quota limits, > > > > > way before they knew if they had a viable idea. > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > Tony wrote: > > > > > > Though I realize this is not exactly what you're asking, the > concept > > > > > > of GAE is that it exposes some of the infrastructure that all > Google > > > > > > applications rely on (i.e. Datastore) for others to use. So, in > a > > > > > > sense, Google's various applications were using App Engine before > App > > > > > > Engine existed. As far as I know, every Google service runs on > the > > > > > > same homogeneous infrastructure, which is part of what makes it > so > > > > > > reliable (and why the only available languages are Python and > Java, > > > > > > languages used internally at Google). > > > > > > > > But I don't work there, so maybe I'm completely off-base. > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 12:53 pm, richard emberson < > richard.ember...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Eating one's own dog foodhttp:// > > > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one's_own_dog_food > > > > > >> or in this case: > > > > > >> Using one's own cloud. > > > > > > > >> Amazon' cloud is based upon the IT technology they use > > > > > >> within Amazon. > > > > > >> Salesforce.com's Force.com offering is what they used to > > > > > >> build their CRM system. > > > > > > > >> These cloud vendors "Eat their own dog food". > > > > > > > >> If a cloud vendor does not use their cloud offering for > > > > > >> their other products and/or internal systems, one > > > > > >> would have to assume that the cloud is viewed as > > > > > >> a technology ghetto within their own corporation - good > > > > > >> enough for others but not for ourselves. > > > > > > > >> So, concerning the Google App Engine, are other groups > > > > > >> within Google clamoring to port or build their offerings > > > > > >> on top of the App Engine? If so, please be specific, what > > > > > >> Google products and infrastructure and what are the schedules > > > > > >> for their hosting on GAE? > > > > > > > >> Is the GAE group supporting the Google Docs group as they > > > > > >> move to use GAE? How about gmail, will the Google Gmail > > > > > >> group be relying on GAE support? I have not seen emails > > > > > >> from either of those internal Google groups on the GAE > > > > > >> mailing list. Lastly, when will Google search be supported > > > > > >> by the GAE group; > > > > > > > >> Will those groups have to live under the same quota restrictions > > > > > >> while they evaluate using GAE? If not, why not? If they > > > > > >> are unreasonable for an internal evaluation, what makes them > > > > > >> reasonable for an external evaluation? > > > > > > > >> Evaluating whether or not GAE should be used for a particular > > > > > >> application is not FREE even if one gets a very small slice > > > > > >> of GAE resources with which to do the evaluation. > > > > > >> Tens or hundreds of hours go into determine if GAE has > > > > > >> the right characteristics and quotas that limit how fast one > > > > > >> can work makes it worse. (Yes one can $$ for higher quotas, > > > > > >> but during the evaluation phase $$ is out of the question.) > > > > > > > >> Richard Emberson > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > > -- > > ============= > > Juguang XIAO > > Beijing, China > > > -- ============= Juguang XIAO Beijing, China --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---