Hi Phil, Coming from Java world, I'm very much spoiled with frameworks. When I first created an app for GAE, I used Spring. But due to unacceptable start-up time, I ditched it and just use Servlet+JSP.
I miss a lot of convenience (esp. Spring Security), but luckily GAE provides other goodies, things like sending email, cron, persistence, are now taken for granted. I still use a handful of 3rd party components: joda time, SiteMesh, Scala (I'm talking from JAR point of view, an extra 8MB), and some other small libraries. Oh, and you can always-on your instances. On Sunday, 22 July 2012 17:32:41 UTC+8, glimmung wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've been reading, initially with amusement but more recently with > concern, the "dialogue" (for want of a better word) between Brandom Wirtz > and Jeff Schnitzer re. startup time/optimisation. Brandom has now made > the following very strong statement: "NO FRAMEWORKS. NONE. Deal with it." > > This leads me to ask the Google team for their position on this: Is it > your position that GAE is an unsuitable platform for framework-driven apps? > > I'm using a framework, and trust the framework's authors to optimise their > part of the piece as much as possible, but I'm paid to solve business > problems, and am not about to dive into that timesink of esoterica. It's > outside my skill-set, and properly so in my view. I've only really tinkered > with GAE so far, and this is putting me off investing more time in what is > starting to look like a risky platform for me. > > So Google peeps, if I want to write B2B apps using a framework, am I your > market or not? > > Or is it your position that the low-level optimisation to balance start-up > time and hosting cost will always be required? > > > -- > > Cheers, > > PhilK > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/3SVruDN4gUUJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
