Salim, I was not mentioning about this group...  Do you think the coverage
of the media in such  a serious matter justifiable?

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:00 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 'cold response' sounds like an allegation. before also some members came
> up and did the same about the cold response on dalit related mails.
> do u think silence is always condemnable?
>
>
> On 5/1/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I was mentioning about our cold response to this report... Did we take
> > it as a serious matter? I worry, we didn't
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:19 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > afthab,
> > > u mean the report of mass grave at uri area in kashmir is wrong? or
> > > the civil society responses and actions to it?
> > > what is wrong if the reporting and the actions done in the name of
> > > indian democracy?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/1/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is quite odd... Why Kashmir is excluded from our consciousness?
> > > > I would like to believe that this report is not true... But if it is, 
> > > > this
> > > > is done in the name of Indian democracy, that we are responsible for...
> > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Anivar Aravind <
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: *Khurram Parvez* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > > > >
> > > > > ASSOCIATION OF PARENTS OF DISAPPEARED PERSONS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   _Press Release_
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > / /*/28^th April 2008/*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is exactly one month after we released a report of a fact
> > > > > finding
> > > > > mission on nameless graves and mass graves in Uri area titled
> > > > > 'Facts
> > > > > Under Ground' which evoked response from the media, human rights
> > > > > groups,
> > > > > politicians and political formations of various hues, civil
> > > > > society and
> > > > > people at large.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We want to utilize this occasion to appreciate, thank
> > > > > and
> > > > > criticize the concerned on their response; and to make requests
> > > > > and
> > > > > demands for fresh, comprehensive and sustained responses from the
> > > > > stake
> > > > > holders i.e. the local and international civil society and HR
> > > > > Groups,
> > > > > Political formations and resistance Groups, local and
> > > > > international
> > > > > media, lawyers' groups, international humanitarian agencies and
> > > > > people.
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all we appreciate the local print media for the coverage
> > > > > given
> > > > > to the report. We urge for a sustained campaign of follow up
> > > > > reporting
> > > > > to build a more compelling case for urgent international expert
> > > > > and
> > > > > humanitarian intervention in order to initiate credible measures
> > > > > to
> > > > > establish the identity of those buried in these graves and seek
> > > > > linkages
> > > > > with the thousands subjected to Enforced Disappearance by the
> > > > > state
> > > > > security agencies in Kashmir from 1989 till date. The families of
> > > > > the
> > > > > disappeared have neither the resources nor the expertise to carry
> > > > > out
> > > > > either the job of comprehensive reporting or the task of
> > > > > scientific
> > > > > exhumation and identification of those buried in these nameless
> > > > > graves
> > > > > and mass graves.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have received more reports of the existence of mass graves and
> > > > > nameless graves, some of which has already been reported by a
> > > > > section of
> > > > > the local press. We expect people and the media to be more
> > > > > proactive in
> > > > > reporting about the existence of such graves with all the
> > > > > available
> > > > > detail and local narratives about them. This will bring their
> > > > > existence
> > > > > into public knowledge and thereby help in safeguarding the grave
> > > > > sites
> > > > > from tampering. We request the people to take all steps necessary
> > > > > to
> > > > > safeguard these sites from any kind of interference till such time
> > > > > as we
> > > > > are able to garner the support and intervention of internationally
> > > > > credible expert and humanitarian bodies to undertake a thorough
> > > > > exercise
> > > > > of identifying these bodies. We believe some of those subjected to
> > > > > enforced disappearance are buried in these graves and the process
> > > > > of
> > > > > identification, that we are demanding, will provide some relief to
> > > > > the
> > > > > families whose kin have disappeared, will enable a decent burial
> > > > > of the
> > > > > victims and contribute to producing the necessary evidence against
> > > > > the
> > > > > perpetrators thus help in breaking the culture of impunity enjoyed
> > > > > by
> > > > > the state security agencies. It is the moral and humanitarian duty
> > > > > of
> > > > > the local people to do whatever is possible to safeguard these
> > > > > sites and
> > > > > the bounden duty of the local media persons to take extra pains to
> > > > > unearth these skeletons and ferret out the truth in all its ugly
> > > > > detail.
> > > > >
> > > > > We expect the local lawyer community to take up the issue in the
> > > > > relevant forums, file PIL and undertake a legal campaign to force
> > > > > the
> > > > > Government and its security agencies to come out with verifiable
> > > > > truth
> > > > > and fix responsibility for these crimes as it is the government
> > > > > and its
> > > > > security agencies who are the ultimate repositories of information
> > > > > about
> > > > > these graves and also about those disappeared involuntarily while
> > > > > in
> > > > > their custody.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We impress upon the local political formations of all
> > > > > hues
> > > > > to encourage people to provide more information about these and
> > > > > other
> > > > > grave sites and to take necessary measures to safeguard these
> > > > > sites from
> > > > > tampering or interference considering them as an extremely
> > > > > sensitive and
> > > > > a sacred trust with them.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We express our satisfaction at the issue of
> > > > > comprehensive
> > > > > statements by various humanitarian groups particularly the Amnesty
> > > > > International and the Asian Federation Against Involuntary
> > > > > Disappearances (AFAD) demanding that India should investigate all
> > > > > allegations of enforced disappearances in Jammu & Kashmir
> > > > > following
> > > > > reports of mass graves.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We expect the international humanitarian bodies
> > > > > particularly
> > > > > the Amnesty International and AFAD to initiate steps toward
> > > > > implementation of their demands by lobbying with the relevant
> > > > > credible
> > > > > international bodies.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We also urge the ICRC, which is operating in Kashmir
> > > > > to
> > > > > volunteer their expertise on this issue.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We understand the callous attitude of the state
> > > > > security
> > > > > agencies in dismissing our findings as a result of their direct
> > > > > involvement in these crimes as is borne out by the various fake
> > > > > encounters and custodial killings documented and reported
> > > > > extensively.
> > > > > We believe that this callous and inhuman attitude of the security
> > > > > agencies springs from the culture of impunity produced as a result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the draconian laws operating in Jammu and Kashmir, which do not
> > > > > allow
> > > > > the families of the victims to pursue their cases productively.
> > > > >
> > > > >             We believe that this report should be a cause of alarm
> > > > > for
> > > > > those with a human heart and a concrete basis for the
> > > > > international
> > > > > expert groups and humanitarian and human rights bodies for
> > > > > initiating an
> > > > > urgent action to probe the matter.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Spokesperson
> > > > >
> > > > > Ghulam Nabi Mir
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >

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