inline below. Great share btw......
I'll move ahead and address this share even though I have not readied my return query to the bottom half of your last share...... :) Apologies to the remaining List members if this discussion is causing problems............
At 11:29 10/31/2007 -0700, you wrote:
resending another email that bounced.. did hardwaregroup.com go down yesterday?

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I'm not certain because I've never tested it, but I think on the LAN side you must use a subnet that would be confined to a single Class C network when using a consumer router. Using 255.255.0.0 as a subnet mask would actually be subnetted as a Class B network since only the first two octets would be the network portion. It could be that a router would let you enter this type of subnet on the LAN configuration but would not function as expected.

OK. I understand. I will again attempt to apply a class C network strategy. Even though the LAN runs very much better using class A with a full (25.255.255.0) netmask. Even the router is happy at 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.0.


Nice choice on the router btw; I own the very same unit. I wanted a router with a gigabit switch and tests on Tom's Hardware showed that it could support a high speed WAN connection as well as many active sessions, thus making it P2P file-sharing friendly. My previous router would spontaneously reboot if I had too many active connections due to Kademlia. It simply wasn't powerful enough to handle the load. Anyway.. back to the subnets..

Superb, another resource for future router questions....Hayes, now there are 3 of us!..... :)


I think the only valid choices for a subnet mask when using these kinds of routers would be one that restricts you to functioning under a single Class C network. (when I say Class C I mean that when looking at an IP of AAA.BBB.CCC.xxx only hosts whose first three octets are matching, can communicate directly) The usable subnet masks are the following....
255.255.255.0 (1 network, 254 hosts)
255.255.255.128 (2 networks, 126 hosts each)
255.255.255.192 (4 networks, 62 hosts each)
255.255.255.224 (8 networks, 30 hosts each)
255.255.255.240 (16 networks, 14 hosts each)
255.255.255.248 (32 networks, 6 hosts each, used with 5 ip accounts)
255.255.255.252 (64 networks, 2 hosts each, what most ISPs assign)

OMG. I did miss this business 2 years ago. So, this is how true "subnets" - actual seperate channels for groups of PCs get done. Amazing, truly amazing. I do not fully grasp, but now know which chapters of my book to re-read..... :)

Now, I just finished trying to use a 192.168.218.x IP series. Maybe boneheaded, but I used the value of 218 in the 3rd octet just because my home address is "218." It seemed like a valid way to differentiate "my" LAN from all of the plethora of 192.168.?.? LANs on planet Earth. The fun started from this decision. It took, but was slow and glitchy. When I make a major LAN change to my LAN topography (like an IP address series choice), should I be using some tool or "reset process" for the winsock when I make these changes (class A to class C)? I never did. And still have not. Even though I am back to almost where I started with some minor address changes.


If you were using a Class C address of 192.168.1.x and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.192 you would essentially be chopping up 192.168.1.x into 4 subnets. There would be a total of 64 ip addresses in each subnet but since the first and last address of any network are reserved, there are only 62 usable addresses for your hosts. The same logic can be seen in the other subnet masks.

I know I'm probably repeating/rephrasing some of what I already said but I think more examples help me when trying to understand something.

Do not apologize, please! Your examples help draw the mental pictures I need to grasp these really subtle things. I was working for Xerox back when this "ethernet" thingy came to be. Thought I had a good grasp. Perhaps not. It just seems to have gotten so much more complicated - for obvious reasons! I do appreciate the level of detail.
Best,
Duncan



-Tharin O.


DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tharin,
Thank you for the reply. The smoke clears. I want to read your reply a few more times.

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