I worked for awhile at a location that had similar requirements. They did not use cat5 anywhere in the building--every single network run, to printers, computers, servers, everything was fiber. Tens of thousands of computers on an all fiber network was pretty cool. I don't think the average computer keyboard (eg) had any special shielding, but the building itself did.
Scott On May 13, 2010, at 2:35 PM, DSinc wrote: > Anthony, > I spent 18 months of my life inside one of those areas repairing stuff. > Not quite ready to turn my home into a Faraday Cage. Not necessary really, I > trust. > I now get to trust in the technology of my ISP, my modem, and, my chosen > router/gateway. Beyond that, I do what needs to be done as best I am able at > the client level. > It's all good! LOL! Happy GA Camper! > Best, > Duncan > > > On 05/13/2010 13:38, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >> Yes, you are relative to the lock punks. But even regular Wifi security >> can defeat them. >> >> In the defense industry common PC components have to be locked down >> again stray RF because spies in parking lots can sniff signals...even >> those on wired keyboards. >> I used to work inside a small room with 1-foot metal walls on all sides. >> Heck, even football coaches use this tech to keep opposing teams from >> sniff playbooks! So, if your stuff is that important... :) >> >> Anyway, not trying to talk you into anything. Keep doing what you're >> doing, man! Be happy! >> >> On 5/13/2010 1:14 PM, DSinc wrote: >>> Anthony, >>> OK. I'll get my old RF sniffer out again next week and check my 4 >>> keyboards and mice........ ;) >>> >>> What kind of shields do you mean? I don't think the punks in pocket >>> race cars w/WIFI scanners see anything but my m/b's or my microwave. >>> I could be wrong, but, I believe I am roughly RF neutral. >>> Best, >>> Duncan >>> >>> >>> On 05/13/2010 12:32, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >>>> Unless they are shielded, they still leak some RF energy, bro! >>>> >>>> On 5/13/2010 12:11 PM, DSinc wrote: >>>>> Anthony, >>>>> LOL! Yes, I live in a neighborhood of "Good Ole' Boys." And, I have >>>>> met many of them over the past 6 years. None of them work at (minimum) >>>>> Radio Shack, or, any of the 3 "computer" stores in my location. These >>>>> folk do beer, babes, V8 cars/trucks, and cable/sat TV. >>>>> >>>>> Uh, installed by a service provider? Not here brother! "Let's call >>>>> cousin Jo-Bob! He's always online playing _____________!" (fill-in!) >>>>> "PassPhrase"? I could only hope. >>>>> >>>>> The spurious RF in my neighborhood caused my router's WIFI side to >>>>> have trouble linking with a test client inside my house....15ft away >>>>> from the router. WIFI has been shut off since installation. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose that if I used a wireless keyboard/mouse, then yes. But, I >>>>> do not use wireless anything. My keyboards and mice are all remain >>>>> PS/2. >>>>> Still smiling, though. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Duncan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 05/13/2010 10:59, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >>>>>> hehe...Ok, Duncan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just curious, though...what do you mean by "few too many strong >>>>>> hot-spots"? Are people in your 'hood leaving their wireless networks >>>>>> open? I can see my neighbors networks, but they all appear to be >>>>>> secure. >>>>>> I think the providers are making sure they setup the customers with >>>>>> secure networks, but it's no telling how hard the passphrase are... >>>>>> >>>>>> But I do think someone can still sniff your keystrokes...unless your >>>>>> keyboard itself is "tempest" then one can make a trip to radioshack to >>>>>> see what top secret stuff you are typing. >>>>>> >>>>>> best. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/13/2010 10:49 AM, DSinc wrote: >>>>>>> Anthony, >>>>>>> I suppose the main fear is security. I just do not wish to become an >>>>>>> RF transmission site. Yes, I am aware that encryption tech has >>>>>>> improved over the years, but, I just do not care to share my >>>>>>> keystrokes in free space. >>>>>>> Yes, I do use a 5.8GHz telephone. But, I do not spend much time on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> phone. Besides, most of my phone traffic is robo-political calls and >>>>>>> saying "No" to various charities seeking contributions....... :) >>>>>>> Additionally, I noticed that when I upgraded to my current DGL-4300 >>>>>>> router, and tested its' WIFI side, I found a few too many strong >>>>>>> hot-spots in my neighborhood. >>>>>>> I will watch WIFI as it improves and matures. I do believe that >>>>>>> service providers may drive me to WIFI in the future anyway (ATT is >>>>>>> already!). But, until wired LAN is restricted to only >>>>>>> commercial/industrial space, I will stay wired-only. >>>>>>> Let's just call this my "tin-hat" issue. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Duncan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05/13/2010 06:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >>>>>>>> Why do you fear WIFI, Duncan? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/12/2010 11:14 PM, DSinc wrote: >>>>>>>>> Greg, >>>>>>>>> TNX. I've always known you were into it all... :) >>>>>>>>> Logic for WIFI makes sense; though I still fear it. >>>>>>>>> Duncan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 05/12/2010 23:04, Greg Sevart wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Wired for all workstations, servers, and devices/appliances >>>>>>>>>> (ie: TV, >>>>>>>>>> blu-ray >>>>>>>>>> player, Dish receivers). >>>>>>>>>> WiFi N for laptops >>>>>>>>>> WiFi G for phones/other that don't speak N >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wireless is great for any device you don't want to be tethered >>>>>>>>>> on, but >>>>>>>>>> nothing beats the performance, security, and reliability of >>>>>>>>>> good old >>>>>>>>>> fashioned twisted pair. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- >>>>>>>>>>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Hardware Group >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [H] Open question? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this >>>>>>>>>>> LIST is >>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>> actively >>>>>>>>>>> using WIFI for their internal home LANs? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! >>>>>>>>>>> The basic question is about the use of WIFI....... :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 >>>>>>>>>>> LANs?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering? >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> Duncan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: >>>>>>>>> 05/12/10 14:26:00 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: >>>>>>> 05/13/10 02:26:00 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: >>>>> 05/13/10 02:26:00 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: >>> 05/13/10 02:26:00 >>> >>
