Ok, now it's REALLY fixed.

From: hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Swires
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:21 PM
To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK 2013 Release

This doesn't appear to have been fixed yet. I have also tried restarting the 
Steam client.

On 27 June 2013 02:07, Joe Ludwig 
<j...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:j...@valvesoftware.com>> wrote:
The SDK Base apps hadn't been published yet, but that should be fixed now. You 
should see "Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer" and "Source SDK Base 2013 
Singleplayer" in your tools list. Install those and your mod should show up. 
(You'll need to build it first so you have binaries to load.)

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 On Behalf Of fuZZ RedEyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:02 PM

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Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK 2013 Release

Thank for the fast reply Alfred,
I just may have misunderstood something, cause i told about the equivalent of 
the source sdk base 2006 and 2007, but a 2013 version.

The three mod templates, get from the github repository, have all a 
gameinfo.txt with a steamapp ID set to 243730.
To me it was supposed to be the Sourcesdk Base 2013 i had mentionned. the hl2 
steamapp id hasn't change it's always 220.
So it a bit confuse to me, if i put the mod template into 
"steamapps/Sourcemods/" and restart steam, nothing appears.
something goes wrong ,no ?
//nicolas

2013/6/27 Alfred Reynolds 
<alf...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:alf...@valvesoftware.com>>
The expectation is that the Singleplayer variant of the SDK Base will update 
when HL2 does, which will be reasonably rarely (i.e less than once a year). The 
MP version will more closely track the engine used by our MP titles (TF2, 
HL2DM, DoD:S, CS:S) and will update every couple of months, but those changes 
should not break backwards compatibility for games.

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 On Behalf Of fuZZ RedEyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:07 PM

To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK 2013 Release

Yeah Great news, and thank you Joe and Alfred for posting, here.
Hmm, The source sdk base 2013 it not yet available from steam tools.
How many time do you expect guys, for the steamAppID 243730 (source sdk 2013) 
to be )released  on steam ? ( the Steam AppID is the one set into the 
gameinfo.txt  of the template mod_hl2 /mod_episodic )
//nicolas


2013/6/27 Alfred Reynolds 
<alf...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:alf...@valvesoftware.com>>
No, hammer is only available on windows and we have no plans at this time to 
change that.

It is a MFC app, which is a windows only UI tech, so a port would be difficult. 
Future engines have been designed with cross platform support in the toolchain 
from the start.

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 On Behalf Of Jesse F
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:46 PM
To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming

Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK 2013 Release

Is hammer going to work on mac and linux now? I like that I can use not VS to 
build the sdk now.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Alfred Reynolds 
<alf...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:alf...@valvesoftware.com>> wrote:
There is a new Source SDK Base 2013 app (one for MP and one for SP) that ships 
with a complete suite of the modding tools, you should use those and set a 
custom VPROJECT (actually, you can use the tools from any game, just set that 
vproject environment).

- Alfred

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 On Behalf Of Neico
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Source SDK 2013 Release

One question does appear in my mind with that tough...

How are mods going to be able to use the tools like Hammer in the future?
Games ship it with themselves, but for mods there would be a
customizable solution needed,
or do you expect us to rip the tools stuff from one of the games and
modify it until it fits and ship it together with the mod?
I think that's a rather big thing that isn't covered by the news at all
and will have an impact if there's no solution coming soon.

- Neico

On 27.06.2013 01<tel:27.06.2013%2001>:02 GMT +2, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013
>
> That is where you want to go for the code.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>  
> [mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>]
>  On Behalf Of Joe Ludwig
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:49 PM
> To: 'hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com>'
> Subject: [hlcoders] Source SDK 2013 Release
>
> http://store.steampowered.com/news/10962/
>
> Source SDK 2013 Release
>
> We have released an update to the Source SDK, bringing support for Mac OS X 
> and Linux to mod developers and exposing the ability for virtual reality 
> support in your mod. The biggest change with this update is that we are using 
> github to host the source code. You will find the code here. This Source SDK 
> 2013 release also includes a new license that can be foundhere. This new 
> license allows mod authors to share their changes to the SDK more easily.
>
> The other change with the Source SDK is that now Hammer and the other mod 
> tools ship with their respective games instead of as part of the SDK 
> Launcher. The launcher itself is being phased out, so it will disappear from 
> your Tools list. You can find information about how to run the tools from the 
> games here.
>
> The source for this new SDK release includes the latest code for all the 
> included games, and has many new features:
> . The games now build and run clients on Windows, OSX, and Linux. Dedicated 
> servers are supported on Windows and Linux.
> . Steam Pipe (the new Steam content delivery system) is supported by the 
> sample mods. Existing mods can change their gameinfo.txt to match the new 
> format and gain Steam Pipe support.
> . Support for Virtual Reality via the Oculus Rift has been added to the SDK. 
> Running a compatible mod with -vr on the command line will run the mod in 
> stereo and enable head tracking on the Rift.
>
> You can find instructions on getting started with the new Source SDK 2013 on 
> the Valve Developer Community wiki.
>
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