-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The alias command, however there's no chance on valve unlocking that due to it's potentially unsafe nature. This is why it was ideal to have the end user be able to choose.
There's a huge difference between enforcing a certain cvar and policing every certain cvar at an interval. Not only in safety, also in efficiency and performance. On top of that, it's entirely impossible to do anything at all about concommands. So things like "spike" or snd_restart will be impossible to do anything against. On 5/2/07, LDuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I can think of only 2 major plugin functions affected by this. > > One is server forwarding. I've heard from people operating 50 servers that > all forward to one, and I've joined many of these types of servers, so I'm > not unhappy about this change at all. > > The other is changing players' rates. Since those can now be limited by > the > new cvars (which Valve provided in response to the original restrict > server > commands outcry) there is no problem there either. > > I can't think of another valid reason to use a client exec from a plugin. > I > don't understand why there is so much outcry. What client commands (other > than those listed above) are you execing on players that you miss so much > with the restrictions? > > Grant > (L. Duke) > > > On 5/2/07, Yo Mama's A Chump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > First of all it is the users responsibility to protect themselves from > > such > > attacks seeing as they can come from anywhere. The MOTD can point to a > > malicious website... what does that have to do with client exec? > > > > Secondly this is a pattern by Valve. They add these great "features" > that > > break mods and plugins without any thought or care of how it will affect > > the > > community. Seeing as SourceMod is right around the corner and it will > > circumvent the need for executing client commands, why can they not wait > > until those projects flesh out first? > > > > Alfred, how much help are you providing to Bailoplan et. all in getting > > SourceMod complete and tested? This is a critical evolution that is > going > > to > > take time for things to be ported. Why not wait until these things are > off > > the ground to remove client exec? Is there some massive rash of abuse > that > > I > > have not heard of? What is the rush? > > > > -YMAC > > > > > > On 5/2/07 5:36 AM, "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The question is, are you willing to take responsibility for security > > > breaches on client machines as a result of executable code you have > sent > > > those machines via the Source network system? > > > > > > The simplest example would be to point the internal browser at a site > > > which contains IE exploits, there are many far more complicated > exploit > > > vectors also. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Amen. What is going on here? It seems that Valve thinks that all the > > >> people that operate servers are clueless children that can not be > > trusted > > >> with anything. If players do not like the way they are treated on a > > >> server, they can leave. My server relies on plugins that are able to > > >> execute client commands, if that is taken away I am done running a > > server > > >> for Valve. > > >> > > >> Alfred, we are still waiting for an explanation of the reason behind > > this. > > >> What are you trying to stop exactly that is so critical that you are > > >> willing to ruin so many things that people have worked long and hard > > on? > > >> > > >> -YMAC > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please > > > visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___________________________ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
